Lucky the lime green metalic GTR 1972
#1 _Agent 34_
Posted 16 October 2010 - 02:52 PM
Firstly I'll introduce myself, I'm Grant live in Sydney and I'm reliving my youth !. Im sure there are plenty of you here as well, It's a bit like AA . If there are AA people here dont take offence. But this forum is a bit like therapy ! My wife thinks that Im having an affair, I sort of am with the car, anyway
It all started about a year ago when I brokered a deal with my lovely wife, you see I was doing a house renovation, running a business. There had to be a cherry at the end of it all for me as I don't get that excited about kitchens, so long as I can make a Coffee and have something to eat then that fine by me.
I said that I wanted a new bike, I like to do a bit of bike racing, but with three kids, business and commitments, the idea of another bike was not working for me for a few reasons, I cannot take the two boys to the track and leave then, SO it the turned to cars, it started out as a EH, then HR, then a HG and HK, then I started to look at the torana Lj. Firstly I could not believe how much the cost of them were, my base price I was prepared to spend seemed to only buy a wheel ( not a nibless thingy) anyway.
I looked and looked and waited, started a love affair with Ebay, Carguides, stopped eating, staying at work so I could surf the net looking waiting for the right car. I found the GMH forum and the addiction just got worse, reading, looking, for GTR's you see that i could not afford a xu1, but maybe I could afford a GTR, I had my heart set on a LJ as I used to have a xu1 mock up and it was my first car and subsequent loss of license, but that's another story.
Anyway the fever never left and I had lost about 10kgs, my wife took me to the doctor and he said that there was nothing wrong medically and that i't was all in the mind.
The craving took me to lismore to look at a gtr but it was missing tags, I bugged the begeezes out of Bazza for tag info and even put some sunday arvo calls for guidance ( thanks bazza) you gave me steady advice. If went to the sunshine coast as well to look at a silver LC gtr , but i really wanted a LJ.
The first car that I went to look at was in sydney, however it was a very high price for the car, but it had all the tags, the orignal block, the real down part was that the front guards were flaired and so were the rears. This put me off straight away and the price was to high. I let it go and did not pursue.
Six months went by and the fever didn't pass, I thought that I would just try the original car with the flared guards again, the owner was in a different position and was serious with relation to the price he now wanted.
We brokered the deal and what I got was a GTR 8/72, lovely flared guards, miminal rust, matching tags / motor + great 4 door for parts and spares + other assorted Xu1 parts.
I went to torana fest and bugged may of the owners in order to try to find the best start point and spoke to many people and thanks for your advice.
The fever finally broke when I got the car home, Whilst the car needs work you cannot have everything when buying a car for a price.
so without further ado, here is " Lucky "
Step 1 was taking Luckies doors off and these came off today, thanks to " Inox " and gong's " how to guide " I also prayed to the LJ DOOR PIN GOD'S prior to going to bed.
Step 2 he will be off to sydney soda blasters next week in order to find out what secrets he has under the paint, I know that there has been some "A" pillar work to the passanger side and also on the left and right of the bottom of the front window pillars, but it seems that this has been done correctly.
So I can tell you all that I will probably need you help and advice to get me through this, but so far you have all been pretty help full.
All I want to do is put it back to original and see that lovely lime green metalic paint with sprintmasters glistening in the sun and a lovely stumble from the motor and a burble from the rear.
here goes !
#2 _sunburst73-xu1_
Posted 16 October 2010 - 03:09 PM
Good lick with it all and make sure you put plenty of pics up.
cheer Dane
#3 _ronaldoredsox_
Posted 16 October 2010 - 03:52 PM
#4 _judgelj_
Posted 16 October 2010 - 03:56 PM
great buy,
great colour.
hope to see more!
#5 _Hamster_
Posted 16 October 2010 - 03:57 PM
Hope it all goes to plan.
Edited by Hamo, 16 October 2010 - 03:57 PM.
#6 _1973bathxu1_
Posted 16 October 2010 - 05:07 PM
im sure u will spend many hours in the garage working on it, and enjoying your youth days again
as a very good friend of mine always calls a project the same as u are preparing to do, he calles it theropy,
all the best on your new project
regards aldo
#7 _Agent 34_
Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:28 PM
The front is not a problem at the moment the rears are, they have been done quiet well and a lovely job at flaring. Its such a shame that they ended up like this.
They should have used this car as a picture perfect flare job at TAFE
Its also been dumped into a fence or another car and that's why the nose cone and front left quater of guard has been cut and shut and are of a different colour.
the story is that the car was being pulled down for paint, the motor is in pieces and It's with the penisular engine reconditioners and they are checking the block, the pistions are at 60 thou and the head is a yella terra 186. There is no damage to the crank/ bore at the moment all seems Ok but they have to mic it up in order to give the full OK.
If the bore is no good then Im going to sleve it and go back to standard.
Took the wiring harness out yesterday and the front and back windows. No rust in the surrounds.
#8 _studricho_
Posted 18 October 2010 - 09:48 AM
#9 _miro05_
Posted 18 October 2010 - 05:19 PM
#10 _2ELCS_
Posted 18 October 2010 - 08:13 PM
Welcome to the forum,enjoy the re build.
Wayne
#11 _Eedman_
Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:51 AM
#12 _Agent 34_
Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:00 PM
Will post photos of the war scars that it brings up, anyway it's the start of the journey !
#13 _Agent 34_
Posted 18 November 2010 - 04:34 PM
Well it all went a bit quiet on the lucky front and there is a story here again and it goes like this!
prior to doing what i do now, which is private certification of construction projects ( don't use council) i was a carpenter, and hold a builders licence. When i spoke to Marty ( very nice guy the soda blaster, who said that i have 600 of these chair supports to do prior to your car ) he said that he was doing these chair support things from the Star City Casino. I twigged up and noticed these chair supports and recogonised these things as the same bloody things that i had screwed down in the casino. small world and it's strange how it works, ten years ago I screw down 1200 chair supports, ten years later Marty from Sydney Soda Blasting cannot do my car because he has 600 chair supports to blast and in fact the ones that I fitted ! go figure.
So i was looking at a job in Parramatta and decided to drop in for a look and this is what I found in a part finished state !
The motor is being miked up this week !
#14 _fatlh5000_
Posted 18 November 2010 - 04:42 PM
Sounds like this car has found the perfect home- where it will be loved and looked after with passion.
Lovely story.
Look forward to more progress pics.
Good luck with the build.
#15 _Agent 34_
Posted 18 November 2010 - 04:48 PM
question for you all, I can replace the rear quaters in order to get back the square arches, but what do you think about the cutting down and mimisalation of the exisiting flaring ? I love the here your throughts
#16
Posted 18 November 2010 - 05:29 PM
I have to admit having a slight drool over that car when it was on ebay.
It looks like not too much work so here's hoping its on the road real soon.
#17 _fatlh5000_
Posted 18 November 2010 - 05:29 PM
In my oppinion, it needs the square arches- and it is best to do this in the present condition with no paint.
I think it will shine once given a fresh lick of paint.
That is what I would do, without question.
It would be like seeing a great looking bird, with a poor fitting dress..... nice, but not perfect.... and the potential is there !!!
I hope my analogy helps.
Cheers agian, I am sure it will look good with teh standard wheel arches, or the lipped arches which it presently has.
#18 _ls1lj_
Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:33 PM
I tried to buy this car as it had all the original good bits and I liked the original colour also, but due to work stuff was not able to make the deal. I always wanted to own a matching number GTR but the cost of transporting 2 non driveable cars interstate and all the parts separately meant i would not have had any money to start the projet anytime soon after the sale.
In the end decided to build a modified LC first to improve my skills, but still plan to build a GTR in the future.
To do the car justice you would definately have to restore the guards to original IMO. Are you going to paint it in the original colour?
I will definately be following this build thread, If you want the details of you vehicle off the microfiche, i probably still have them somewhere and can post them upor PM them if you don't have them already.
Congratulations on the purchase and keep the pics rolling.
#19 _Agent 34_
Posted 23 November 2010 - 04:48 PM
Mate.... its a tough one, but only as tough as you make it.
In my oppinion, it needs the square arches- and it is best to do this in the present condition with no paint.
I think it will shine once given a fresh lick of paint.
That is what I would do, without question.
It would be like seeing a great looking bird, with a poor fitting dress..... nice, but not perfect.... and the potential is there !!!
I hope my analogy helps.
Cheers agian, I am sure it will look good with teh standard wheel arches, or the lipped arches which it presently has.
Paul told me your story when I was looking at the car and that it was just to costly to take back up to NT.
The colour will be back to original which if you all had not guessed is lime green metalic !
Well here are some more pics of the car now that it's been blasted.
I have the four door which I will take the A pillars out of to replace the ones I have as it's cheaper and quicker to do this rather than re build.
I found the battle scars where the font has been repaired across the drivers side guard, there is no damage to the chassis rails, so that's a relief.
There is no evidence of a cut and shut in the engine bay, or the replacement of rails in the car.
So far so good.
Still waiting on motor feed back
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#20 _Agent 34_
Posted 23 November 2010 - 04:51 PM
Mate.... its a tough one, but only as tough as you make it.
In my oppinion, it needs the square arches- and it is best to do this in the present condition with no paint.
I think it will shine once given a fresh lick of paint.
That is what I would do, without question.
It would be like seeing a great looking bird, with a poor fitting dress..... nice, but not perfect.... and the potential is there !!!
I hope my analogy helps.
Cheers agian, I am sure it will look good with teh standard wheel arches, or the lipped arches which it presently has.
Sorry Lsilj, Clicked the wrong post. Fatlh5000 click your post in stead sorry.
#21 _Agent 34_
Posted 26 November 2010 - 05:17 PM
Well, it all started like this;
I went to torana fest, spoke to some dude who races a LC, he mentioned peninsular engine re conditioners that does engine work. They are round the corner form where i work.
need to re sleve - 600 bucks
yella terra 186 head, OK - guides ok apart from two - but still fine for use and no real matter to sleve
crow cam 675 - was with the car
crank on 10 off so still fine
rebuild discussion today.
pressure test the head
clean and fix up
re sleve block back to original size
Hold at this point
we need to check the available new conrods not star fire rod, and then measure the internal combustion chamber head area to determine what compression ratio we want - then select a piston that gives us this.
Ive decided to Balance the rods - crank again - then get fly wheel and harmonic balancer and then re balance on crank.
the original crank and rods has been balanced, but because we are now changing the rod's it's back to stage one with the balancing Act.
the main point is that it's the original block for the Car and this is worth doing to re sleve and keep block.
My main objective is to have the following;
have all the parts balanced
have all the parts conrod pistons as light as possible
have the harmonic balancer and fly wheel balanced with the internals
match the cam to internals
match the carbies to the cam
Im not at the stage of a rev limit, but we are talking.
Step 1 - resleve
step 2 - crank
step 3 - rods
step 4 - pistons
#22 _Agent 34_
Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:22 PM
The A pillars are like the day the guy at GMH had a meat pie and two cans of KB for lunch and went back to work in the arvo.
There is not a spot of rust in them. How can this be that other parts of the car is turning to Iron Flake Heaven !@@@
Thought that I would put a photo of the two boys in as well, they like seeing themselves on the internet, it's like being on TV for them !
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#23 _CraigA_
Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:46 PM
Bloody things are breeding out there.
#24 _Agent 34_
Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:20 AM
It is truly a lovely sight to see two coupe's stripped down to bare metal, they even look shark like with the flutes on the side.
You really get a great appreciation of just how finely built these cars are they just don't have massive amounts of un - necessary castings - big rails or other items.
Im more excited now then when I bounght the car.
#25 _Agent 34_
Posted 04 December 2010 - 07:30 AM
The parts have been ordered from John, two front guards and two sills. The donor will be giving up the A pillars and the floor hump to repair the damage to the gtr.
The last pieces of the puzzle have been the rear quaters. 1 has come from John gong ( thank you john ) and the other from another guy who is getting his xu1 done. ( thanks jeff ).
It looks like i'll have all the parts ready for the new year.
Rang yella terra for a price on a fly wheel and it's about 350 for a light ( i think 8.5kg) and about 350 for a clutch.
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