Jump to content


Photo

Coilover kit made in Germany


  • Please log in to reply
71 replies to this topic

#1 The German

The German

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 268 posts
  • Name:Uwe
  • Location:Nurburgring Germany
  • Car:LH V8 1974
  • Joined: 02-April 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 24 November 2010 - 04:06 AM

Dear Torana friends,

my new custom made 2 way adjustable coil over shocks arrived.

%3Ca%20href=Posted Image">

#2 _Kush_

_Kush_
  • Guests

Posted 24 November 2010 - 06:45 AM

I'm afraid to ask because it might be scary, but I'll ask anyway........ How much did they cost?

#3 GML-31

GML-31

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,239 posts
  • Name:Kev
  • Location:Highland Park
  • Car:too many
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:05 AM

look good, yep same question how much?

#4 MRLXSS

MRLXSS

    The Render Garage

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,400 posts
  • Name:Matt
  • Location:Upwey, Melbourne
  • Car:355 LX Hatchback, DeLorean DMC-12, LX SS Hatch, VY Cross8 Crewman
  • Joined: 09-November 05

Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:51 AM

They look great!

#5 dattoman

dattoman

    Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

  • Administrators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,485 posts
  • Name:Neil
  • Location:Perth Western Australia
  • Car:LX SS , 76 Cadillac , 3 x dattos
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:40 AM

Very good Uwe

Send me a set :)

#6 _Kush_

_Kush_
  • Guests

Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:52 AM

Yeah, me too! I want some :)

#7 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,241 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 24 November 2010 - 10:17 AM

Standard mounting points?
Very nice looking.
And yeah... howmuchisit?

#8 The German

The German

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 268 posts
  • Name:Uwe
  • Location:Nurburgring Germany
  • Car:LH V8 1974
  • Joined: 02-April 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 24 November 2010 - 05:29 PM

OK,

Its "1800�" = 2450 AUD plus 19% GST available from Boemanns Motorsport at the N�rburgring. (If German tax free is possible ,must be obtained )

Comes with a KW lifetime warranty and with a free modification option (rear upside down) . Springs in different rates also available.

Manual German/English :

http://www.kwsuspens...Competition.pdf

The kit will be tested at the N�rburgring with my LH for the best setup.

Next week im back in the workshop and doing some more pics for you

Uwe

#9 Toranamat69

Toranamat69

    Forum R&D Officer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,117 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Joined: 07-November 05

Posted 24 November 2010 - 05:50 PM

I hope you are doing custom rear shock mounts as that is a bad idea to use the original ones in single shear mode with the full spring weight on them.

There was some pics on here tha someone posted where they had modified the shock mount to a double shear arrangement - can't remember who did it to thie car.

#10 GML-31

GML-31

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,239 posts
  • Name:Kev
  • Location:Highland Park
  • Car:too many
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 24 November 2010 - 06:16 PM

actually I think McDonald Bros does a kit out here

#11 The German

The German

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 268 posts
  • Name:Uwe
  • Location:Nurburgring Germany
  • Car:LH V8 1974
  • Joined: 02-April 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 24 November 2010 - 06:34 PM

The kit has to pass a test by Boemanns and a KW engineer if modifications are needed.

Before this stage the KW Torana Coilover kit will be not available.

Uwe

#12 ls2lxhatch

ls2lxhatch

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,332 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:LX Hatch
  • Joined: 29-May 06

Posted 24 November 2010 - 06:34 PM

I hope you are doing custom rear shock mounts as that is a bad idea to use the original ones in single shear mode with the full spring weight on them.

There was some pics on here tha someone posted where they had modified the shock mount to a double shear arrangement - can't remember who did it to thie car.


I think you may be referring to Dirtbag in this thread.

Posted Image

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 24 November 2010 - 06:35 PM.


#13 micklx

micklx

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,785 posts
  • Name:Mick
  • Location:Frankston South
  • Joined: 18-November 05

Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:00 AM

Looks sweet but I too would be concerned about the lower mounts on the car, especially the front.

#14 Toranamat69

Toranamat69

    Forum R&D Officer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,117 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Joined: 07-November 05

Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:21 AM

LS2LXHatch,

that is sort of what I meant - someone did it much better than that where it mounted up on top of the lower control arm mount rather than butcher the hell out of it like that. That one looks a bit backyard to me.

#15 ls2lxhatch

ls2lxhatch

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,332 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:LX Hatch
  • Joined: 29-May 06

Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:08 PM

Personally I think moving the shock inboard could cause clearance issues between the shock and the body.

Posted Image

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 27 November 2010 - 12:10 PM.


#16 ls2lxhatch

ls2lxhatch

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,332 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:LX Hatch
  • Joined: 29-May 06

Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:46 PM

Maybe something based on the K-MAC swaybar mount design.

Posted Image

I had a plate welded on instead of using the K-MAC u-bolts.
Posted Image

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 27 November 2010 - 12:53 PM.


#17 Toranamat69

Toranamat69

    Forum R&D Officer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,117 posts
  • Location:Brisbane
  • Joined: 07-November 05

Posted 27 November 2010 - 01:47 PM

Yeah, that diff with the black shocks is the one I was thinking of. Much better - bolt nice and square too. Whos car doe that belong to?

Clearnace wise - one would have to check it out - hard to tell without trying it. Hopefully the top shock mount is also strong enough.

MickLX, good point about the front as well. I wonder if these are planned to go on top or below the control arm?

Looks like it could only go on top unless the pin through the bush comes out.

Are these alloy bodied? They do look nice.

#18 ls2lxhatch

ls2lxhatch

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,332 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:LX Hatch
  • Joined: 29-May 06

Posted 27 November 2010 - 03:37 PM

The BW diff with the Commodore style shock mount is youngy_11 from this thread.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 27 November 2010 - 03:42 PM.


#19 _Baronvonrort_

_Baronvonrort_
  • Guests

Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:47 AM

Hopefully the top shock mount is also strong enough.


I would have some concerns about relocating the springs (rear) i have some doubts about the top shock mounts taking the spring loads long term as they were never designed for that.

#20 _Viper_

_Viper_
  • Guests

Posted 28 November 2010 - 10:11 PM

x2, wouldnt you have to build in some braces between the 2 towers inside the boot and tied into the chassis?

#21 ozyozyozy

ozyozyozy

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 950 posts
  • Location:perth
  • Joined: 13-February 08

Posted 30 November 2010 - 07:38 PM

awesome keep us posted on the coilovers, i know there`s a few of us in the west that are VERY interested. if there engineers are doing the intial testing, im sure the strengh of the mounts will be addressed or noted.

#22 The German

The German

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 268 posts
  • Name:Uwe
  • Location:Nurburgring Germany
  • Car:LH V8 1974
  • Joined: 02-April 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:41 AM

x2, wouldnt you have to build in some braces between the 2 towers inside the boot and tied into the chassis?


The Torana is build like a Tank when you compare the old Holden quality to a thin sheet metal of modern cars with a Mcpherson front suspension.

We will see.............

Uwe

#23 Heath

Heath

    I like cars.

  • Administrators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,368 posts
  • Name:Heath
  • Location:Eastern Suburbs, Melbourne
  • Car:Heavily Modified UC Sunbird Hatchback
  • Joined: 07-November 05
Garage View Garage

Posted 03 December 2010 - 04:35 PM

I'm still not convinced about it. With higher springrates and hard driving with better tyres, better brakes etc the loads are going to be a lot higher than what it was all designed for. The mount in the crossmember at the front would be fine but I'd be concerned about the 3 other points per side.

#24 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,241 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:16 PM

^ It is a race car, if something breaks it will be improved...

#25 Peter UC

Peter UC

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 770 posts
  • Location:Emerald Vic
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:46 PM

Also if you are going to the extent of putting in coilovers, a bit of reinforcement at the mounting points, if it is required, is not that hard. All it would need would be a plate over the top or something to distribute the load better.
On a side note, Brett32i has his coilovers mounted in the stock rear shock mounts with no problems so far.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users