Came accross these on streetcommodores
http://www.velocitya...=TUFFMOUNTHQLS1
Just wondering if anyone has used them? How did they go for header clearance and what headers did you use and also what sump?
I'm then hoping if i can sort that out, that they make a TH400 mount by then
LS1 Conversion
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 03:09 PM
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:56 AM
I brought some last week, il let you know how I go. I'm hoping they work really well because they cost a fair bit more than the std rubber mounts. I'm using a camaro sump so I mite run into trouble.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:57 AM
I notched my cross member to fit the camaro sump.
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 12:06 AM
i bought a set of these mounts and the morosso sump
will post up how it goes
will post up how it goes
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 09:06 AM
Might aswell update this
Moroso Part# 20140
MSD Part# 5096
Tuff Mounts
Success!
Moroso Part# 20140
MSD Part# 5096
Tuff Mounts
Success!
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:23 PM
Hi Dan I'm doin a conversion into lh Torana using the same parts but using t56 6 speed, do you or anyone else know much bout getting them licensed mine was a six cyl an my ls1 will be carbyd?? I'm in wa
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:30 PM
you have no chance if the LS1 is carby
and make sure you do the floor cut properly fir the t56 (dont touch the firewall at all - find dirtbag's brother's hatch build)
then any engineer should be pretty happy
i ended up getting the loom from sideshow like another memeber did as the bloke from injectedholdens.com went MIA
and make sure you do the floor cut properly fir the t56 (dont touch the firewall at all - find dirtbag's brother's hatch build)
then any engineer should be pretty happy
i ended up getting the loom from sideshow like another memeber did as the bloke from injectedholdens.com went MIA
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:03 PM
Hey thanx how come I will have no chance if the ls1 is carby??
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:14 PM
You have to meet the emission standards of the donor vehicle, for the LS1 that basically means factory EFI and Cats. The Perth Technical section will not even consider giving you approval in principal to run a carby.
If you run an aftermarket EFI system then you have to pass an emissions test. The emission testing is expensive and difficult to pass with EFI.
Ring the Perth Technical section on 9216 3880 and they will tell you what you have to do. You will need to fill in a light vehicle modification application.
If you run an aftermarket EFI system then you have to pass an emissions test. The emission testing is expensive and difficult to pass with EFI.
Ring the Perth Technical section on 9216 3880 and they will tell you what you have to do. You will need to fill in a light vehicle modification application.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:17 PM
^^^ What Andy said (The Oracle)
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:31 PM
What bout your speedos an shit?? How much harder is it to do efi?? I wanted to keep engine bay empty as possible an neat an tidy??
What bout your speedos an shit?? How much harder is it to do efi?? I wanted to keep engine bay empty as possible an neat an tidy??
What bout your speedos an shit?? How much harder is it to do efi?? I wanted to keep engine bay empty as possible an neat an tidy??
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:35 PM
If you want to keep it simple and run a carby then the small block Chev is a far easier option.
There are electronic conversion boxes available that will drive a cable drive speedo from an electronic speedo pulse.
There are electronic conversion boxes available that will drive a cable drive speedo from an electronic speedo pulse.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:36 PM
The wiring mob i am using can do kits to keep use of the torana cluster
I am going to go down this path if i come accross a non-crackprice slr/ss cluster
http://www.sideshows...ewiring.com.au/
I haven't got my loom yet so i can't comment on quality but i only heard of them because of a fellow member
He said if i hide the wiring by hvaing the entrance near the heater pipes or something, they can mod the loom to suit, so i will be test fitting the loom on the weekend to find the best place to go through the firewall
Also other custom stuff like fan/fuel pump setups, diagnostic ports ra ra
Give Justin a ring
I am going to go down this path if i come accross a non-crackprice slr/ss cluster
http://www.sideshows...ewiring.com.au/
I haven't got my loom yet so i can't comment on quality but i only heard of them because of a fellow member
He said if i hide the wiring by hvaing the entrance near the heater pipes or something, they can mod the loom to suit, so i will be test fitting the loom on the weekend to find the best place to go through the firewall
Also other custom stuff like fan/fuel pump setups, diagnostic ports ra ra
Give Justin a ring
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:44 PM
Ok to easy cheers fellas but I have already purchased the t56 box an ls1 which has done approx 90 000 would love to run a carby setup but don't want to waste more time an money in selling the ls1 an buying something else if it's not that difficult or pricey I might just stick with efi ls1 an make a good looking one haha
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:47 PM
I wish i went Carby Chev sometimes (price wise)
But i know it will all be worth it in a couple of months, got 8.5k left out of 25k with all the crappy little things left to do
Persevere with the manual! be different!
But i know it will all be worth it in a couple of months, got 8.5k left out of 25k with all the crappy little things left to do
Persevere with the manual! be different!
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:54 PM
Yeah nw will always go manual haha just how expensive for efi ls1 setup nicely don't want to many engine mods just want cam upgrade an tune should be heaps for me just want a real good looking engine bay??
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 01:06 AM
I'd go EFI over a carb for sure....but maybe that's just me because I did. 
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 01:19 AM
Oh, for the speedo issue mentioned.... I use a conversion box, uses the pulse signal from the computer/T56 and runs a mechanical speedo cable for my factory speedometer.
Works perfectly and is tuneable for any combo basically. (I've checked my speedo against my GPS at 3 different speeds and I have it within 1 kilometer across the board pretty much)
Works perfectly and is tuneable for any combo basically. (I've checked my speedo against my GPS at 3 different speeds and I have it within 1 kilometer across the board pretty much)
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 03:24 PM
Hey cheers what bout fitting heater box an hoses??
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Posted 17 July 2011 - 05:28 PM
Hey how did use go fitting the t56 gbox??
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Posted 17 July 2011 - 08:52 PM
The extension housing on the Commodore T56 is not the best choice for the Torana transmission tunnel. It can be fitted but you have to cut out the cross member. I would get approval from an engineer before cutting the crossmember.
Pictures from this thread.
There is a shorter extension housing fits without cutting through the cross member. Mal Wood was charging $2290 to convert the Commodore T56 to the shorter housing. I think the Mal wood housing also has both mechanical and electronic speedo outputs. A friend of mine has a hatch with a L98 and the Mal Wood modified T56. The tunnel still needed to be cut but the crossmember dis not require cutting.
There are pictures in this thread of the Mal Wood T56 behind a 308. The car is owned by antelopeslr5000 .
Pictures from this thread.
There is a shorter extension housing fits without cutting through the cross member. Mal Wood was charging $2290 to convert the Commodore T56 to the shorter housing. I think the Mal wood housing also has both mechanical and electronic speedo outputs. A friend of mine has a hatch with a L98 and the Mal Wood modified T56. The tunnel still needed to be cut but the crossmember dis not require cutting.
If you send the New TUET 6000 to me we can set it up to suit your Torana, so what we do is strip the T56 and replace the shift rail, shift block, speedo gear,rear case, shifter etc and this cost will be $1850 for the parts and
$440 labour, the gearstick will now go through the correct place in the floor.
Or alternatively you can just sell your existing T56 and purchase our Road/Race T56 already set up to fit the Torana for $5990.
The ratios of the standard Tuet 6000 are 2.66,1.78,1.3,1.0,.74,.50 and the MWA Road/Race has ratios of 2.66,1.78,1.3,1.0,.80,.63.
You will also require our underdash clutch unit @ $690, Braided line @ $160, Braided Remote bleed @ $145, New mount @ $45, New crossmember @ $195, New speedo cable @ $78, New speedo angle drive @ $125, New slip yoke @ $115
There are pictures in this thread of the Mal Wood T56 behind a 308. The car is owned by antelopeslr5000 .
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Posted 18 July 2011 - 10:43 AM
Hey cheers what bout fitting heater box an hoses??
I used an aftermarket a/c and heater unit (fit up really nicely under the dash) and I ran my heater hoses under my intake and through the firewall with AN bulkhead fittings. The hoses are nearly all hidden basically....
I used an F body (Camaro/Trans-Am) T56 with mine (I just pulled a complete LS1/T56 out of a 2000 Camaro SS basically) and did have to trim the crossmember a little bit, but it's not bad and after plating it in, I am sure it's quite strong. (no idea on legalities of different swaps there though)
I am using a stock console with mine, and have the shifter coming through in the factory location as well. You can check in my build thread in the members projects if you wanted, there are a heap of pictures there.
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