Guys, Im trying like hell to remove the old bearings and Retainers from my 9" diff Axles= Tried to remove the retainers with a chisel and hammer but they wont budge!! how the hell do you get these bastards off??.
Do I need to get the Retainers pressed off and the new ones pressed back on with a press machine or is there a home remedy to do this?,the Bearings I was given by VEALE are the wrong ones too ARGHHHHHH!!!. From what I can make out,the old bearing say TIMKEN KS29698?,the ones I was given list on the box WBK2769?? I told them the Timken Number and they were on 9" Diff Axles the guy said we have them but are a Holden Bearing!??.
I check part Numbers when I get home and they are not even close,So I'll have to go back and get them changed or a refund....
Removing and installing Axle bearings
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, Feb 11 2011 08:24 PM
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:06 PM
Yeah you need to press them off and rightfully so when you think about it's all that keeps the axle from departing diff with wheel attached.... 
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:38 PM
AFAIK the hammer and cold chisel is the preferred method of removing the retainers. Maybe you need a bigger cold chisel and heavier hammer.
Also ensure you have the retainer resting on a solid surface like a heavy anvil or a block of steel so you get maximum impact on the retainer from the hammer and chisel without damaging or bending the axle.
You might need to chop the retainer in more than one spot around its circumference to achieve enough stretching of the metal for the retainer to come off.
The bearings will most likely need to be removed with the aid of a hydraulic press as will fitting the new bearings and retainers.
Also ensure you have the retainer resting on a solid surface like a heavy anvil or a block of steel so you get maximum impact on the retainer from the hammer and chisel without damaging or bending the axle.
You might need to chop the retainer in more than one spot around its circumference to achieve enough stretching of the metal for the retainer to come off.
The bearings will most likely need to be removed with the aid of a hydraulic press as will fitting the new bearings and retainers.
Edited by S pack, 11 February 2011 - 10:39 PM.
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 12:37 AM
see a bigger hammer fixes all
gees been saying that for years finally someone who agrees with me lol
gees been saying that for years finally someone who agrees with me lol
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 01:16 AM
AFAIK the hammer and cold chisel is the preferred method of removing the retainers. Maybe you need a bigger cold chisel and heavier hammer.
Also ensure you have the retainer resting on a solid surface like a heavy anvil or a block of steel so you get maximum impact on the retainer from the hammer and chisel without damaging or bending the axle.
You might need to chop the retainer in more than one spot around its circumference to achieve enough stretching of the metal for the retainer to come off.
The bearings will most likely need to be removed with the aid of a hydraulic press as will fitting the new bearings and retainers.
As S pack said cold chisel and a hammer in several places sitting retainer on a solid surface.
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:25 AM
Lots of conversions use Holden bearings on modified axles so that Holden brakes can be retained by welding the ends of a Holden axle tube to the fraud housing.
Regards removing the retainer,tapping the cold chisel will do jack.
HIT the bloody thing!!!
Regards removing the retainer,tapping the cold chisel will do jack.
HIT the bloody thing!!!
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 04:29 AM
Lots of conversions use Holden bearings on modified axles so that Holden brakes can be retained by welding the ends of a Holden axle tube to the fraud housing.
Regards removing the retainer,tapping the cold chisel will do jack.
HIT the bloody thing!!!
go hard or go home
you have new ones who fu&king cares if you stuff the old!!!
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 07:41 AM
All i normally do is get and angle grinder and CAREFULLY grind the retainer a bit thinner on oposite sides and smnack it with the chisel,just don't go through it Phillip
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 10:42 AM
i'll have another go at it today guys, is it possible to install the new ones without a press though??
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 10:46 AM
For all the farking around involved I figured it was worth paying the man $100 to supply and fit them.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 10:56 AM
Yep, agree cost me $120 bucks and everything is as dear as hell in Cairns
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:28 AM
You can use a piece of pipe and large hammer to hammer/press the bearings and retainer on...but you will need to have heated the bearing first (I prefer boiling in oil) ...but its a huge stuff around,a little bit dodgy and has plenty of room for error.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:28 PM
No need to heat the bearing just make sure your pipe only makes contact with the inner bearing race only and the centre of your axle makes good contact with a very firm surface being careful not to damage youe wheel nut studs.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:54 PM
Just to elaborate on above, when heating a bearing, heating it in oil is the only way to go. Heats all parts of the bearing equally so it doesnt stuff the bearing.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 07:06 PM
I cut about 3/4 the way through retainer with a grinder then drive the cold chisle into the cuts, they should then just slide off. Then I do the same to the bearing.
To put the new one on I just use a long heavy pipe and bash the bearing and retainer on. Just make sure the pipe only hits the inner race on the bearing.
To put the new one on I just use a long heavy pipe and bash the bearing and retainer on. Just make sure the pipe only hits the inner race on the bearing.
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:12 PM
Bugger it,I'm taking the Axles to work tomorrow and try change the bearings/retainers there= we have a press at work but unsure what tooling is there to help press them off?,we sussed out the Bearings I got from Veale are indeed the right ones though seem to be an updated bearing?. The old ones were like a Connical roller bearing and seperate Race the new ones have bearing and race in one unit
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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:42 PM
They come as one unit but separate through use.
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Posted 18 February 2011 - 07:22 PM
UPDATE Well at last I got around to changing the bearings, I took the Axles to work and carefully cut off the bearing cages with oxy,heated up the retainers a little and knocked them off with a drift and hammer then installed the new ones with a metal pipe just the right diameter and heavy hammer,pretty damn hard to get 'em on.....phewwwwww!.
I'll pop the axles back on this weekend along with new brake shoes then its on to takling the Hopper Stoppers kit upfront.
I'll pop the axles back on this weekend along with new brake shoes then its on to takling the Hopper Stoppers kit upfront.
Edited by 76S.L.R, 18 February 2011 - 07:23 PM.
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