They said what they do with all the other guys buying those wheels for Torana's is to run the 15 x 6" 3.5" Backspace on the front and 7" on the back,they said you can get the 15x 7" with 5.5" backspace which I was unaware of!! and will take a week to order those ones in. I didnt buy any wheels today and think this option they suggest is my best bet?.
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You can go larger than that. Sixes on the front? - only for a straight line car.
I have the same 8 inch wheels on the front of the LX sedan as the rear with 195/60/15 for the front.
I think the suggestion that you take the car to be professionally measured up is a good one.
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Posted 09 August 2011 - 11:33 AM
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^ If you're only running 195s they will be much nicer on 6s than 8s... even 205s are fine on a 6, especially if you have clearance issues. Handling is better with tyres that fit the wheels. Having said that of course the 7s and 8s with wider tyres will fit and fill out the guards a bit more in the correct offset
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Posted 09 August 2011 - 05:36 PM
Sidewalls go pretty much straight up and down with 195 on 8 inch (203mm) rim. Handles like a dream. Try it, you will like it.
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Posted 09 August 2011 - 07:19 PM
Well Im getting the 15 x 6"( only in 3.5" B/S) for the fronts with 195x 60 tyres and rears 15 x 7"( 5.5 B/S) with 225 X 60,wheels have been ordered and will be here next week.
I want the car to steer easier so opting for 6" with 195's and running the 7"s on the back as your only allowed a 1" difference on rims plus am told its illegal to run 8" rims here in W.A anyway so I decided to go this option,I just want this thing going again....my Daily driver 180SX just doesnt have that lovely V8 noise!!.
I want the car to steer easier so opting for 6" with 195's and running the 7"s on the back as your only allowed a 1" difference on rims plus am told its illegal to run 8" rims here in W.A anyway so I decided to go this option,I just want this thing going again....my Daily driver 180SX just doesnt have that lovely V8 noise!!.
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Posted 09 August 2011 - 07:25 PM
Glad you found something that will work in the end, not much point in the wider wheels if you're not going to run tyres to match anyway so it should be good with what you've picked.
You must have one of the widest 195s ever made, I've had 205s on an 8" wheel before and they are quite stretched - the sidewalls are far from straight (they taper outward from the tread to meet the bead of the rim)Sidewalls go pretty much straight up and down with 195 on 8 inch (203mm) rim. Handles like a dream. Try it, you will like it.
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:20 PM
FYI.
First two are of 195/60/15 on 8 inch rim. Third pic is same size rim with 235/60/15.
First two are of 195/60/15 on 8 inch rim. Third pic is same size rim with 235/60/15.
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:03 PM
195/50/15 on a 6 inch rim. Too much overhang IMHO.
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 07:09 PM
First two are 215/60/15 on an 8 inch.
Last is 215/60/14 on a 7 inch.
Appologies but would not let me load all pics in a single post.
The pictures are a bit deceptive - there is quite a visual difference in the way the tyres sit on the varying rim widths.
Take your pick.
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Last is 215/60/14 on a 7 inch.
Appologies but would not let me load all pics in a single post.
The pictures are a bit deceptive - there is quite a visual difference in the way the tyres sit on the varying rim widths.
Take your pick.
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 09:08 PM
I wasn't actually second guessing you before - some brands of tyres are a lot wider than others in the same size - but looking at your first few pics those don't look like 8" wide wheels...?
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Posted 13 August 2011 - 10:06 AM
8 inch bead to bead, nearly 9 inches from lip to lip. Rims also vary a fair bit in how much extra meat sits outside the bead which obviously affects the way the tyre will look on a particular rim. The various 15 x 10 hotwires are a good example of this.
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judging by those pics,it looks like if I run 6"(3.5 B/S) with 195 Tyres,the overhang on sidewalls will catch on my guards?,though I have rolled them
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Posted 13 August 2011 - 07:37 PM
You should have miles of room. Mine look close and they are but its an LJ not LH/LX. Its also got wider brakes and lowered to buggery.
Ideally you would be better looking at a 4 inch BS to be certain of clearance.
Ideally you would be better looking at a 4 inch BS to be certain of clearance.
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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:57 PM
Well my Car is still in Limbo!!, This is rediculous= I ordered the two 15 x 7 ,5.5" BS wheels at Chris Mills over a week ago ( they had the 6" ones in stock) I ring yesterday and am told yes the frieght just showed up ,the guy looks and there is only 1 of the 15 x 7" that showed up!?, I wasnt happy.
They said they would ring around for another wheel and call me today, what a surprise ..I got no call today so looks like ive now got to chase these up elsewhere myself and will probably cost me more now too as I'll be up for freight costs,why do shops never call you back when they know you REALLY need the parts,it happens to me all the time!
They said they would ring around for another wheel and call me today, what a surprise ..I got no call today so looks like ive now got to chase these up elsewhere myself and will probably cost me more now too as I'll be up for freight costs,why do shops never call you back when they know you REALLY need the parts,it happens to me all the time!
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guys, What size is the standard Torana Wheel Stud Threads?= the Studs on the Hoppers Kit and my old Torana Studs are the same thread but I dont know the pitch,though from memory the Dia of them is 12mm just trying to buy the right Nuts for the Draglites, Dunno if I'll get open ended or closed nuts though I think the Closed ones look better...
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Posted 17 August 2011 - 10:55 PM
Torana wheel studs are 7/16" UNF.
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 12:01 AM
Yes they are 7/16
Take your brakes up and test them in Mills wheel before you order them from somewhere else
Or we'll be seeing a for sale advert for wheels or brakes sooner rather than later
Take your brakes up and test them in Mills wheel before you order them from somewhere else
Or we'll be seeing a for sale advert for wheels or brakes sooner rather than later
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I wonder if I'll ever get this car on the road again!!!, I gave up on Chris Mills( long story) and tried to buy the same wheels through VPW and today I find out they too dont have 15 x 7 with 5.5 Backspace, not until 4-5 weeks anyway.
I'll have to now look for other Weld Wheel sellers in Australia but not having much luck?,failing that different wheels,I know the Convo Pro will fit but not overly keen on those,theres a Convo ET that look bloody great but are pricey.
My Studs it turns out are all 7/16
I'll have to now look for other Weld Wheel sellers in Australia but not having much luck?,failing that different wheels,I know the Convo Pro will fit but not overly keen on those,theres a Convo ET that look bloody great but are pricey.
My Studs it turns out are all 7/16
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If you want the Welds and not the Convos then just wait the 4-5 weeks, a small delay isn't much in the scheme of things if it means getting it right
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Right at last I have my wheel's/Tyres are on the car but still having problems!!!,DAMNIT!
I have 225x60x15 on the rears and they fit with not much room to spare,now the fronts only have 185x60x15 and for some frOcking reason stick outwards a lot!?= the tyres will definately scrub on the fenders wheel arches when I go over a bump even though the lips are rolled it will still scrub.
The hoppers kit I ordered was supose to be with the torana offset hubs but Im starting to think they've sent me the other one's that push the offset out 8mm ( VT Hubs?),oh the joy of it all....
I have 225x60x15 on the rears and they fit with not much room to spare,now the fronts only have 185x60x15 and for some frOcking reason stick outwards a lot!?= the tyres will definately scrub on the fenders wheel arches when I go over a bump even though the lips are rolled it will still scrub.
The hoppers kit I ordered was supose to be with the torana offset hubs but Im starting to think they've sent me the other one's that push the offset out 8mm ( VT Hubs?),oh the joy of it all....
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 12:27 AM
Measure from the tip of the stub axle back to the face of the front disc or hub and post up the measurements. I should then be able to tell you which offset hub you have.
Another method is to measure the thickness of the spacer used between the brake caliper and the adapter plat.
Another method is to measure the thickness of the spacer used between the brake caliper and the adapter plat.
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Wheels are now on and car is moble once more! but sadly even running the 185 /60's upfront the tyres scrub on the lower guard area of the fenders,Arghh!! 
though I dont think they are touching by a lot by the look of it?.
They scrub before full lock so its anoying and maks a horrible noise,the fact that my old wheels REALLY rubbed in the same spot doesnt help and are damaged from those so will have to fix this before I make things worse plus my tyres are brand new so dont wana rub them away...
though I dont think they are touching by a lot by the look of it?.They scrub before full lock so its anoying and maks a horrible noise,the fact that my old wheels REALLY rubbed in the same spot doesnt help and are damaged from those so will have to fix this before I make things worse plus my tyres are brand new so dont wana rub them away...
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Well,Wheels/brakes/tyres all fitted up at last= just need the front guards rolled more and to fix the odd steering problem.
I was alost positive I wouldnt fit 8" rims on the rear but after fitting the 15 x 7" with 5.5 B/S 225/60 tyre it looks like I might have just got an 8" on there but would need 5.5" B/S again for it to fit on MY car might even change the rears later down the track?. Theres just bugger all dish on the rears now but will do for now,still pretty happy with it!
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I was alost positive I wouldnt fit 8" rims on the rear but after fitting the 15 x 7" with 5.5 B/S 225/60 tyre it looks like I might have just got an 8" on there but would need 5.5" B/S again for it to fit on MY car might even change the rears later down the track?. Theres just bugger all dish on the rears now but will do for now,still pretty happy with it!
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Hi 76 SLR, I've just been reading through all your dramas, good to see you eventually got through it.
I've got a question for you, in the end did the Welds fit over the 290mm Hopper Stopper kit? I've got a set of Weld Draglites 15 x 5s for the front of my LH and have found I need to upgrade the brakes. I was looking at Hopper Stoppers but not so sure now after reading your story...any help or tips appreciated. Thanks
I've got a question for you, in the end did the Welds fit over the 290mm Hopper Stopper kit? I've got a set of Weld Draglites 15 x 5s for the front of my LH and have found I need to upgrade the brakes. I was looking at Hopper Stoppers but not so sure now after reading your story...any help or tips appreciated. Thanks
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Yes mate the Weld Draglites clear the Hoppers Brakes by quite a bit as per some pics contained in this thread, you said you have 15 x5!? geeze Im running 15 x 6" and I thought that was small.Hi 76 SLR, I've just been reading through all your dramas, good to see you eventually got through it.
I've got a question for you, in the end did the Welds fit over the 290mm Hopper Stopper kit? I've got a set of Weld Draglites 15 x 5s for the front of my LH and have found I need to upgrade the brakes. I was looking at Hopper Stoppers but not so sure now after reading your story...any help or tips appreciated. Thanks
1)The hoppers kit is fine mate,though not cheap= just make sure after you fit it all up that the brake rotors are central in the caliper brackets if not then like me you will have to add 1-2 small shims in with the cylindrical spacers to centre the rotors.
2) make sure those thick adaptor Plates sit flush on the sub axles,mine were fine but some stubs have cast marks that need smoothed off so the the adaptor plates sit flush on the Stubs.
3) Run the Brake lines under the stub axles,I put some rubber hose over the Brake Line where its touching on the Stub Axles for protection and cable tied them onto the Stub.
This might help? check step 13 about brake line route
http://www.hoppers.com.au/articles/toranabrakes.pdf
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