Hi all,
well i modifyed my pedal to suit a clutch master cylinder for the box i have in the ute, but im not happy with the general design of my pedal it doesnt feel like it will last too long
what would be the best way to mount it to my pedal?
i kinda figured maybe changing the angle of the back of the pedal and welding a bracket with a big bolt and nut on it
i will get photos of both the master cylinder and the pedal later on tonight
any help will be appreciated
cheers josh
Hydraulic Clutch Setup
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 07:14 PM
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 09:32 PM
alright i'll get some, when i figure out how this pedal comes out... i did the setup to an old pedal i had lying around and dont like it..
has anyone got photos of hydraulic clutch conversions in HZ kingswoods?
basically i have a VS clutch master cylinder with a remote bottle and i want to mount this into my HZ kingswood
has anyone got photos of hydraulic clutch conversions in HZ kingswoods?
basically i have a VS clutch master cylinder with a remote bottle and i want to mount this into my HZ kingswood
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Normally you'd just drill a hole in the pedal (the thick lever part between the pivot and the pedal pad) and use a pin to attach it to the pushrod. The Dellow conversion mounts an HR style master on the firewall with a custom bracket around the brake booster, all you do is drill a hole in the firewall for the pushrod, and a hole in the pedal at the right height, no actual modification of the pedal.
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 09:58 PM
Thats normally
But thats got nothing to do with Josh and the setup he's trying to do
SHow us what your trying to do Josh... your being too vague
But thats got nothing to do with Josh and the setup he's trying to do
SHow us what your trying to do Josh... your being too vague
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 10:09 PM
ive confused myself... lol i did try a HR style one i bugged datto about it it was for the saginaws but apparently that wouldn't fit
when my camera decides to upload pictures i will post some up.
maybe it was muncie.
were would i get dellow conversion from???
when my camera decides to upload pictures i will post some up.
maybe it was muncie.
were would i get dellow conversion from???
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 10:55 PM
You could try... Dellow ......
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 11:17 PM
can someone send me a link to some of there stuff?
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 11:21 PM
well i just emailed them hopefully they make a pedal i will post some pictures up when my camera stops being an ass
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 06:46 AM
The gearbox has nothing to do with the master cylinder as long as the slave is suitably matched to the master in displacement.
This shows everything but the pics are very small and there doesn't seem to be bigger versions:
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_108912/printArticle.html
All you need is this master with a pushrod that has a rod end at the pedal and the alloy bracket at left:
http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/holden-hq-hj-hx-hz-wb-hydraulic-clutch-conversion-gts_280650392476.html
The standard pedal is used.
This shows everything but the pics are very small and there doesn't seem to be bigger versions:
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_108912/printArticle.html
All you need is this master with a pushrod that has a rod end at the pedal and the alloy bracket at left:
http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/holden-hq-hj-hx-hz-wb-hydraulic-clutch-conversion-gts_280650392476.html
The standard pedal is used.
Yep...Thats normally
But thats got nothing to do with Josh and the setup he's trying to do
SHow us what your trying to do Josh... your being too vague
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 02:11 PM
alright well i spoke to dellow and they do a HR style conversion
anyway i let the pictures do the talking
im so confused
this is the VS Master Cylinder with a remote bottle i have seen a fair few people use these master cylinders but havent seen how the pedals are run
and this is the pedal out of the HZ
i originally had a bracket welded onto another pedal but the way it was setup it was putting to much pressure on the rod
what should i do???
i have been told the bore sizes on the hr style cylinder will not suit the getrag
although dellows does the complete pedal conversion for hr cylinder for $300 plus postage
anyway i let the pictures do the talking
im so confused
this is the VS Master Cylinder with a remote bottle i have seen a fair few people use these master cylinders but havent seen how the pedals are run
and this is the pedal out of the HZ
i originally had a bracket welded onto another pedal but the way it was setup it was putting to much pressure on the rod
what should i do???
i have been told the bore sizes on the hr style cylinder will not suit the getrag
although dellows does the complete pedal conversion for hr cylinder for $300 plus postage
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 02:14 PM
as you can see the top of the pedal has been modified to suit cable from the previous T5 so it designed to pull away not push onto the cylinder.
if i straighten the bracket it will make it sit awkwardly has anyone got an idea on what i can do
i was going to weld a bracket mid way on the pedal but realised when it pushes it pushes on an angle rather than straight the vs master cylinder is designed to push straight
if i straighten the bracket it will make it sit awkwardly has anyone got an idea on what i can do
i was going to weld a bracket mid way on the pedal but realised when it pushes it pushes on an angle rather than straight the vs master cylinder is designed to push straight
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 02:36 PM
can i possibly bend the push rod??? to go on an angle that will be straight for the bracket on the pedal that i will fabricate?
cheers josh
cheers josh
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:24 PM
Have a look at the setup on LS1 Hatch... our US friend
Or mount it under the dash
Or mount it under the dash
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 07:48 PM
well i figured out how im doing it... a few hours of work and i got this
hahaa i wish i could produce something this good.
its a mal wood setup took the VS slave cylinder back for a refund and i ordered one of these just gotta make one up and send it to me freight overnight
runs a BA Falcon Slave Cylinder and even comes with a fancy alloy reservoir
so thats sorted onto other news
hahaa i wish i could produce something this good.
its a mal wood setup took the VS slave cylinder back for a refund and i ordered one of these just gotta make one up and send it to me freight overnight
runs a BA Falcon Slave Cylinder and even comes with a fancy alloy reservoir
so thats sorted onto other news
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:04 PM
Master cylinder
Not slave
Slaves do the work.. and sit at the bottom beneath Masters feet
Not slave
Slaves do the work.. and sit at the bottom beneath Masters feet
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:12 PM
Master cylinder
Not slave
Slaves do the work.. and sit at the bottom beneath Masters feet
i got some videos like that
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:24 PM
The Mal Wood ones are fairly pricey, aren't they?
Is he still in Warwick QLD?
Is he still in Warwick QLD?
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:32 PM
The Mal Wood ones are fairly pricey, aren't they?
Is he still in Warwick QLD?
$800 odd plus frieght he told me
but "will fit straight in no probs 4 hours r+f" was mals words....well according to josh
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 09:00 PM
Ha! $800???
I'll make my own!
It doesn't look too hard.......
I'll make my own!
It doesn't look too hard.......
Edited by Kush, 14 April 2011 - 09:02 PM.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:22 PM
it is actually the pedal needs alot of manipulating and alot of time
this includes the master cylinder which is what i meant in the first place...
the way it is pictured is the way you get it...
this includes the master cylinder which is what i meant in the first place...
the way it is pictured is the way you get it...
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:01 AM
I am confused. You are selling this ute. Why bother dicking around with a hyd ckutch if it was already set up for cable? Especially spendingg $8-900 on a pedal/master set up
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:33 AM
Exactly........... On ya Aggro
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:47 PM
because the box is designed for a hydro clutch and to convert the box to cable is a ridiculous price
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Posted 19 April 2011 - 10:05 AM
New bellhousing and clutch fork for cable clutch would be around 400 if you found a second hand bellhousing. Or just make the hole in the bellhousing bigger for a cable clutch fork. Thats what I did with the bellhousing for the supra box in my lh.
All commodores with T5's were cable clutch from factory. They only went hydraulic in vs series 2 with the getrag box
All commodores with T5's were cable clutch from factory. They only went hydraulic in vs series 2 with the getrag box
Edited by AGGRO, 19 April 2011 - 10:09 AM.
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