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Started by _rocket_ , May 08 2011 07:18 PM

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:08 PM

Havent done anymore on the car, been away with work.Trying to get a drive for the crank, but the only choices are BDG (expensive) or ? BULLET CYLINDER HEADS
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They dont answer emails or phone calls, so Im stuck on this bit atm.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:13 PM

Couple of pics as it was ready to go back in the car.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:30 PM

Questions for you
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Those headers... done for nostalgia reasons... or cost... or do they rate over say the pacemaker competition series ?

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:00 PM

has the mrs rocket seen the price list? i must show mine,i wont look like such a bad guy after all :3gears:

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:24 PM

It's interesting to read the story by Neil Burns with the last of the HDT Group C cars where he talks about dry sumping and how HDT felt it was an unwarrented cost because they were having no problems so they spent the money in other areas. Bob Morris however was using dry sumps in 1979 in the A9X. Harry Firth was using a semi dry sump in the L34.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:08 AM

Questions for you
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Those headers... done for nostalgia reasons... or cost... or do they rate over say the pacemaker competition series ?

Hi Datto, mainly done for the nostalgia reason, cost $1200 new + the HPC coating,but didnt fit, and needed heaps of mods but cost an extra $650.00 for the mods and the extra piece to the megaphone + the megaphone on top of that.,

has the mrs rocket seen the price list? i must show mine,i wont look like such a bad guy after all :3gears:

Yeh she knows, the trade off is shoes and handbags, and possibly another o/s holiday.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:10 AM

It's interesting to read the story by Neil Burns with the last of the HDT Group C cars where he talks about dry sumping and how HDT felt it was an unwarrented cost because they were having no problems so they spent the money in other areas. Bob Morris however was using dry sumps in 1979 in the A9X. Harry Firth was using a semi dry sump in the L34.


Your right Red, they really had their act together HDT, Burns is a genious, Id love to know the secrets, but Brock didnt rev the things to hard either, so maybe that was the secret to long lasting 308s back then ?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 09:26 AM

Nearly 2k for headers
I think I'll use the pacemakers

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 10:17 AM

It's interesting to read the story by Neil Burns with the last of the HDT Group C cars where he talks about dry sumping and how HDT felt it was an unwarrented cost because they were having no problems so they spent the money in other areas. Bob Morris however was using dry sumps in 1979 in the A9X. Harry Firth was using a semi dry sump in the L34.


what was that written in Red?

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:21 PM

How did the sump and header clearence issue end up mate?

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:40 PM

How did the sump and header clearence issue end up mate?

Hi Mark,
I havent been back down the coast to do any more yet, but Ill try 2 gaskets, and hopefully that will push it out far enough to clear the sump, but then there is the other issue of head stud kit, originally I had to diegrind bits of the headers to clear them, so now they maybe needing some more grinding, all for the sake of the sump ! Thats cars for ya !

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:11 PM

Yeh true mate, but hang in there it will be all worth it in the end

Anyway then you get to have a chuckle to yourself as the rest begin this exercise and have exactlly the same hair pulling, colourfull language drama's as your goinig through now.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:18 PM

Havent done anymore on the car, been away with work.Trying to get a drive for the crank, but the only choices are BDG (expensive) or ? BULLET CYLINDER HEADS
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HOLDEN HILL SA 5088
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They dont answer emails or phone calls, so Im stuck on this bit atm.


If I can be of assistance, I live almost around the corner from this crowd, do you want me to drop in and follow up your enquiry?

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 05:16 PM

My bosses cuz owns BDG.... hasn't got me a cheap pump yet though

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 06:08 PM


Havent done anymore on the car, been away with work.Trying to get a drive for the crank, but the only choices are BDG (expensive) or ? BULLET CYLINDER HEADS
14-16 DUNDEE AVENUE
HOLDEN HILL SA 5088
AUSTRALIA
They dont answer emails or phone calls, so Im stuck on this bit atm.


If I can be of assistance, I live almost around the corner from this crowd, do you want me to drop in and follow up your enquiry?


Bullet do a pretty good job, have a couple of mates who have used them for engine builds (260hp 202 for one with 150 shot of NOS)
I would suggest they may be a good route to go down.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:06 PM


Havent done anymore on the car, been away with work.Trying to get a drive for the crank, but the only choices are BDG (expensive) or ? BULLET CYLINDER HEADS
14-16 DUNDEE AVENUE
HOLDEN HILL SA 5088
AUSTRALIA
They dont answer emails or phone calls, so Im stuck on this bit atm.


If I can be of assistance, I live almost around the corner from this crowd, do you want me to drop in and follow up your enquiry?

Thanks baron, that would be excellent.Apparently they make an alloy mount for the crank, that uses a peterson pin drive, not exactly what I was going to do, but it maybe better than the 6 inch bolt and spacers style that BDG use.Ill find the pic and post it.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:11 PM

A little bit off topic but I noticed the Super T10 and was wondering what the correct length yoke to use with the T10 is as I know the std holden T400 ones fit but are really too short and lead to problems later on?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:43 PM

Yes that is correct, the Super T10 yolk is longer and readily available, the 1st tailshaft I had made by a certain place used the T400 yolk, the result was a flogged out tail housing, made a real mess, and lost all the oil out of the box.I think its about 50-75mm longer.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 05:48 PM

These are the 2 pieces from BDG, I bought the block, really nice piece of gear, its the other that I have to get or make next.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:11 PM

Havent done anymore on the car, been away with work.Trying to get a drive for the crank, but the only choices are BDG (expensive) or ? BULLET CYLINDER HEADS
14-16 DUNDEE AVENUE
HOLDEN HILL SA 5088
AUSTRALIA
They dont answer emails or phone calls, so Im stuck on this bit atm.

they know about you .

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:46 PM

Did you tell them ?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:13 PM

Hey, Rocket

I am having trouble with the pictures on my super slow optus (couldn't care less) wireless internet service.

I will take a look tomorrow at work.

Edited by The Baron, 19 May 2011 - 09:15 PM.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:54 AM

which shoes and handbag did you have to surrender rod?

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 04:27 PM

which shoes and handbag did you have to surrender rod?


Your old ones you gave my wife ! What, you want them back now ?

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 02:14 PM

gday rocket. from the people iv spoken to and stuff iv read, if you can go with a crank drive that has a hub bolted to the balancer, not the 6 inch bolt like you said. iv heard when using the long bolt, due to the amount of load on it (dry sump drive with lots of washers and holding a balancer to the crank), they flex and are prone to break.
so if you find out about the bullet cylinder head version can you please pass on some info.
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