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#1 _Ozzie Picker_

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:36 PM

hi,

need some ideas on how to clean the inside of a fuel tank that has alot of corrosion,rust and white looking shit,its very poxy inside.

i was thinking hydrocloric acid mixed with water,and maybe after washing out dose up with wd40 till fuel added to stop it corroding again.

what do you people think,its a Porshe 911 tank,and has a swerl pot looking thing inside,so i don,t want to damage it,i,ve heard of pebbles and put on a vibrator,but this tank you would never get all the rocks out of it.

thanks for any ideas.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:45 PM

There is a very good article on this subject in the latest Old Bike Australasia magazine. It involves a battery charger, a 12v headlight and soda crystals.
I hope this helps.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:47 PM

Molasses and a couple of electrodes.
You will be able to wash it out with water and it will eat most of the corrosion.
Final wash with metho or acetone to dry any left over water out.

Swirl a coating into it to finish it off and it will be good til you need to work on it.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:53 PM

There is a very good article on this subject in the latest Old Bike Australasia magazine. It involves a battery charger, a 12v headlight and soda crystals.
I hope this helps.


will look into to it,sounds interesting

thanks for your help,



hi grant,

what do you mean with the electrodes?i,ve heard molasses is good forgot about it.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:23 PM

Electrodes just like bathurst-racer says. Running a charge into the mix converts the "almost" rust and creates a layer of good metal (the layer depends on what you use for electrodes). With molasses you don't need the charge (we generally don't) but it's good and most people suggest it so I'm happy to suggest it up front now.
Soda is good, but it leaves a coating that you need to remove before doing anything else - so you can leave the thing until you want to use it but then you need to hit it with acid and then seal it.
With the molasses, you just get a clean fresh surface and you seal it then and there. Saves playing around later.

Both good, we just like molasses - it's easier for the big stuff, and most hotrod stuff is big stuff.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 11:00 PM

POR 15 do a complete tank sealing kit that comes with all of the necessary stuff to get your tank prepped and sealed.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:10 AM

KBS Coatings make a similar product to POR15. I use the procedure that enderwigginau has mentioned, then use KBS or POR15 to seal. I have the KBS product in the tank of my LJ for just over 12 months, appears to be ok & no leaks anymore.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:17 PM

thanks heaps everyone,

so what do you think i should use for electrodes?and do they need to be at opposite ends of tank?

roughly how long with the molasses?

and who makes POR 15?and where should i buy POR or KBS?

this forum is the BEST.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 08:34 PM

ask your local friendly (or arrogent fat prick of a ) paint suppilier
he will have some or should advise who does
auto pro over here has it not sure of over there but

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:17 PM

ask your local friendly (or arrogent fat prick of a ) paint suppilier
he will have some or should advise who does
auto pro over here has it not sure of over there but


thanks al,

my paint supplier,is the tamworth holden dealer,and luckly they are great friendly guy,s and do me special prices.

cheers

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 08:39 AM

You can get it direct from the supplier.
http://www.kbs-coatings.com.au/
http://ppcco.com.au/
Connect a piece of stainless to the positive terminal, hang it in the liquid(not touching the fuel tank)& the negative terminal to the fuel tank.

Edited by warrenm, 20 May 2011 - 08:49 AM.


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:25 AM

Hot tank at local engine builder?

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 05:20 PM

Leave it for at least a couple of weeks, but as long as you can. The good metal won't eat away. Check the electrode regularly, as it will be eaten away so you may need to replace it depending upon what you use - Stainless, Zinc bar, or some good steel with no rust on it.

Check the sealer you use. The POR15 stuff we use needs to be primed reasonably soon after - it seals the surface against corrosion but is still porous. If you can make sure you use a sealer that doesn't need another coat AND is resistant to fuel, it's a one shot and you're home and hosed.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 06:06 PM

thanks grant,

its soaking ATM,

with the POR15,how do you use that?

this has a swirl pot in side,so how do you move the POR15 about?the corrosion is almost up to the top,so i hope the POR15 is runny stuff.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 07:45 AM

KBS has a similar product for sealing inside fuel tanks, they have a good video of how to do it on their website, just google KBS coatings.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 08:43 AM

KBS has a similar product for sealing inside fuel tanks, they have a good video of how to do it on their website, just google KBS coatings.


cheers mate,

i,ll have a look now.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 08:46 AM

Craig, i've looked into this at length because i need a new tank for my 911 also.

The 911 tank has a plastic swirlpot inside as you know. These swirlpots are made from 2 differnt types of plastic. Only 1 of which will survive the POR process. Do you want to take the gamble?

Even POR don't recommend their products for 911 tanks!

Alternatively, Pelican parts [who are the cheapest supplier of 911 parts on the planet] sell a replacement fueltank for around $500. Subject to availiability.

My advise m8.... don't bother trying to fix it! The little aircooled wonders are extremely finicky when it comes to fuel supply.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:21 PM

thanks col.

had no idea the swirl pot was plastic,thought it looked strange,you saved my ass.

actually its coming up real nice with the mollasses,we might just give it a go,as the shit coming of looks like a build up ontop of the oridginal coating,which still looks silver.

if it doesn,t work,i,ll definatly look at replacing it,thanks for the tip mate.

i might need some more help yet,as i,m helping a friend, he got an import cheap,and it is a pritty good thing.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 06:31 PM

I'm guessing it is a mid 9 then?

Let me know if i can help m8.

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 07:12 PM

Yep, I don't think I mentioned that - if there is paint on a surface, the molasses won't attack it. So where there is bare metal and rust, it cleans it up and you can end up with a perfect painted section "appearing" on the panel. We've had this happen, and not realised there was paint there.

Good luck, and I hope the plastic survives the process.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

http://youtu.be/vq5IUiYMhRM

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

Fantastic Vid thorley,

That was a Blast !!

I now have a 44 gallon drum full of molasses,throw all sorts of things in,the fungus on to is foul,have to keep it covered.

Edited by 73BATHXU1HTBATH350, 04 February 2013 - 08:01 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:20 AM

Well stuff me.

Thorley very well done. Who the hell thought up molasses as a rust eater is as far as Im concerned thinking well outside the square.

Thats one to have a go at.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:29 AM

Thanks guy's but the credit is not mine, it's an old trick.
Be sure to keep it covered or you might find dead rats floating in it.
And don't seal it , it will need to breath.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:15 AM

I didnt completely understand his process.
Did he do one rim in Molasses mixed with what, water? and another in just white viniger?
or did he mix molasses and viniger?




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