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#76 Tyre biter

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 10:30 PM

LX Torry Freak,
No problem - the body file is a flexible metal blade that (in a simplistic description) rasps the metal slightly to depict high and low spots in the panel that are then beaten with a hammer and dolly to get the panel right or as close as can be humanly done.

The speed file is course paper applied by a similar looking tool to the body file pictured and used to get body-filler right, and also once primer is on the car (in my case the panels will be on the car) it is speed filed before more coats of primer go on. Essentially you end up with a shedload of primer on the floor or another way of looking at it is several hundred dollars on the floor.

Either way the result is fantastic and (hopefully) the light won't bend where the panels meet (look at many car pics and you'll see the light/reflection curve in opposite directions each side of a panel gap). We are trying to overcome this as best can be done by speed filing the first four layers of primer and then applying more layers of primer before it is hand rubbed.

Yella SLuR,
Thanks for that and yes, Dave is pretty bloody good with filing and indeed everything it seems - he won't let me near that job to claim that sort of work myself - quite rightfully so too!
Thanks also for the further tips on the front flares meeting the spoiler.
I reckon I have my head around it now thanks to yourself and Mort - I appreciate the tips.

Cheers, TB

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 10:42 PM

^ Can't find a pic of my filing effort, oh well, I'll come across it one day. It's a nice skill to have that's for sure. Yella's new nose is waiting in the shed to be done, it has holes for letters (wohoooo).

No problems, glad to see you have it sorted.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 11:16 PM

Essentially you end up with a shedload of primer on the floor or another way of looking at it is several hundred dollars on the floor.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:57 PM

More updates;
Big news for today being the car is now in primer and ready for speed filing.
And the panel gaps are fantastic - a good chance they are better than when new from factory.
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How is the inside of this bonnet for effort?
Dave has gone above and beyond on this - the inside was a little nasty in terms of surface corrosion but we were loathe to Deoxidine it given what happened with the primer on a Deoxidined panel previously.
I have to admit that I wasn't there for all this, but it could only have gotten this good after a shed-load of time on a wire wheel and sanding by machine and hand.
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The inside of the nose cone was similar to the inside of the bonnet but the actual panel is like a new one.
Just can wait to get it off the rotisserie and put the nose cone on.
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Still yet to fit the reverse bonnet scoop but it is coming together really nicely.
So that is where it is at, and I am just loving it!

Cheers, TB

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 01:32 PM

Wow great build, makes me want to do a thread of my hatch (when i figure out how to do it lol)Car looks great. Keep up the good work

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:00 PM

Awesome project. Glad you chose Mint Julep, it's a sweet colour!

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 08:41 PM

One of the occupational hazards of a rotisserie. Damn annoying isn't it!!!

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^ my version of the same, although things have progressed a bit further since this pic.

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 11:13 PM

Gaps look nice as. Not hard to improve on factory, but then again they probably throw them together in a fraction of the time, and take no where near as much care as you have.

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 12:54 AM

hi craig..its looking good..how did you go with the glass ..did you find some?

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 07:51 PM

Thanks NEWSUX LX and LXCHEV - the colour has sort of grown on me - always liked Palais white but RedSlur wore me down on going original... Wasn't a fan of Mint Julep because in most of the photos I have seen it looks sort of flat but having seen the colour in real life - it really 'pops' (I think that it the correct vernacular for this sort of thing?).

Yella SLuR - I hear you - darned rotisseries!

lxssV8 - thanks yes, I have all the glass save for the hatch glass, and a fellow member (forum and club) has one of those for me - it pays to belong!

Rear spoiler on today - started like this;
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Now like this;
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Say, has anyone got a good photo of the original SS black-out scheme at the rear (with the bumper bar removed) please?
Just that I want to see exactly how;
a) The blackout goes after running downward past the tail-lights and then forward along the bottom of the rear quarter panel, and
B) I also want to see what it does around the hatch opening on top of the rear beaver/apron.

Cheers, TB

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 09:09 PM

Still looking good so far and you set a great pace, don't do the rear blackouts with the flares and spoiler it looks odd

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 12:13 PM

76LXhatch has raised a good point there Craig. The A9X paint scheme does look a lot better with flares than the SS paint scheme. Something worth considering...and this is coming from semi purist :-)

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:42 PM

Still looking good so far and you set a great pace, don't do the rear blackouts with the flares and spoiler it looks odd


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Posted 09 August 2011 - 09:17 PM

well not with flares anyway, just my opition as it is what you like in the end.
your car is looking so hot, but you will cool it down real fast buy doing the ss scheme with flares.

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 06:55 PM

Posted Image.this is what my hatch looked like before rebuild

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Posted 10 August 2011 - 08:14 PM

Thanks guys - I appreciate your opinions.

My brief is to restore a SS hatchback and not to build an A9X tribute - absolutely no issues with those that have - none at all.

The decision to go flared or not was largely made by my purchasing a car with cut guards - a decision made on my behalf by the previous owner and to be absolutely honest, I was always aspired to own a flared Palais white hatchback such was my love affair with them following an article I read in my grandfather's Wheels Magazine ('Long Live the Supercar' was the title) in the late 70's - the one that compared an A9X against a HG 350 GTS Monaro when discussing the subject of 'modern day' muscle cars versus old ones - I was all but 10 years old but it made such a significant impression on me that 30+ years later I find myself restoring a Torana hatchback. Remember it was only very, very recently I learned a few of the cues to discern an A9X from an SS and so to me prior to late 2010 - a hatchback was a hatchback. Heck I didn't even know only an A9X had flairs let alone the wheel, paint, exterior combinations that differentiate it from an SS to look at!

Regardless, I bought this SS hatchback that was originally green, and despite my leaning towards Palais white initially and after some cajoling from RedSlur I decided to go with the original Mint Julep colour. Having seen your pic Sting I am questioning this decision a little...

Alas, I have warmed and warmed to the idea of restoring it to what it once was, an SS - despite the flairs, spoilers and bonnet scoop - I guess I am guilty of wanting the best of both worlds - so be it. Notwithstanding the A9X body kit, I want it to be an SS all the way - I love painted bumpers as opposed to chrome ones and God only knows the cost of chroming bumpers nowadays requires mortgaging one's children in any case.

So, despite your clearly well informed and best intentions in dissuading me otherwise, I think I will retain the black coloured bum and I am happy to wear the jibes that follow. Sort of like my VE Commodore SSV - I got the 'track stripes' from factory and have withstood many a terse comment as to the same - in the end, it is what floats my boat.

Again, I genuinely appreciate your opinions and efforts in telling me the same, but think I will blaze my own trail on this one regardless - if it looks odd, weird, or uncool as it has been termed then be it on my head - not like I wasn't forewarned is it!

Back to my car's restoration; The speed filing and re-priming commenced yesterday with the driver's door and front guard being completed - here is a pic of the door upon being removed following speed filing and then given its last coats of primer. Got to love paint when it is still wet - Dave has done fantastic work on my car - full credit to him and him alone;

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And so again, if anyone has some pics of a genuine SS scheme sans bumper that shows what happens with the rear black-out for;
a. the area behind the rear bumper - does the line continue straight down from the tail-lights to the 3" wide blackout running parallel to the bottom of the rear quarter?
b. is the base of the beaver (below the rego plate) painted in black or body colour (I think it is)?
c. how does the paint scheme go at the top of the rear beaver/apron that is covered by the hatch when closed?
I'd very much appreciate the same as I want to get this right for a SS scheme.

Finally, to Sting; what are the wheel widths (front and rear) in that pic you posted? I love it - just what I want to achieve - oh having to save up for new Hotwires will so be worth it!

Cheers, TB

Edited by Tyre biter, 10 August 2011 - 08:17 PM.


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Posted 10 August 2011 - 08:50 PM

Hi TB the colour you are going to do isa bloody awsome colour do what your heart wants you will not regrett it ,they still look hot with the arse blacked out i have seen one done in your colour.

I am doing my hatch up as a a9x rep i just love the a9x colour palaris white ,as for my rims they are 10x14 on the back and 8x14 on fronts i would have to check tyre size for you but they do look good.



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Posted 10 August 2011 - 08:52 PM

Mate looking good sorry no photos
Do what you want it's all about what you like sorry I have no pics but mate your car has lots of work and is starting to take shape cant wait to cruise with you

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 07:47 PM

G'day mate i have some pics of the blackouts on the rear of an ss, hope this helps these are original lines as the car hasn't been repainted before cheers
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Posted 11 August 2011 - 08:44 PM

G'day mate i have some pics of the blackouts on the rear of an ss, hope this helps these are original lines as the car hasn't been repainted before cheers


Green 5000,
Those pics are just what I am after - thanks so much.
Can you tell me if the bottom of the beaver is also black - the part below the bumper and between the tail-lights if you get my meaning?
Again, thank you.
Cheers, TB

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 09:05 PM

Here craig, hope this helps, You can see the black around the windows aswell.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:23 AM

Paul,

Those pics are just what I am after - thank you for that.
Jeepers your car has come along way - I've spent quite a bit of time in your thread and now having seen where it started from I can only hope mine comes together as your's is doing.
I've also left another lane question for you in your thread.regarding the front cross member/K Frame.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:47 AM

Yeh the whole beaver is black cheers

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 03:51 PM

Thanks Green5000.

Bit of an update; all the swinging panels save for the hatch have been speed filed and re-primed, ready for wet rubbing.
Also done some more work on the rear spoiler to get the gap right - the body of the spoiler was a tad short and the corner pieces needed a lot of work to sit right on the quarters, but also needed some more added just to close the panel gap to a reasonable width.

Not great 'before' photos but it has gone from this;
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To this;
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Also have the fiberglass parts tidied up and ready for primer. A bit of work required as there were many fine cracks on just about all the pieces. Here is the reverse scoop;
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We have a block of six days off coming up next week and reckon we'll get a lot done then - hopefully the remainder of the body speed filed and re-primed, everything wet rubbed, and finally the underside and inside in paint (black. Then just have to do the inside of the hanging panels, door openings and engine bay in body colour, and the dash done. Shooting for early September before going to the paint-shop to have the body and fiberglass painted before coming home...

Cheers, TB

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:26 PM

Paul,

Those pics are just what I am after - thank you for that.
Jeepers your car has come along way - I've spent quite a bit of time in your thread and now having seen where it started from I can only hope mine comes together as your's is doing.
I've also left another lane question for you in your thread.regarding the front cross member/K Frame.

Cheers. TB



Thanks Craig, It does help to look back and see what the car looked like. B)




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