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Vn injected 355 won't start

Started by _injlc304_ , Nov 23 2011 07:14 PM

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#1 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 07:14 PM

I went and got a new exhaust today got home and now everything is dead. All I did was fit new light globes and now the motor won't turn, no stereo nothing. Only the headlights are working. Wtf?? Help please. was supposed to be getting dyno tuned Tomoz.

All fuses are good. All relays are good batt is brand new and working fine.

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#2 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 07:25 PM

Ok so I've got power back to everything but it's still not cranking. Like it does when you try to start it in gear but I've removed the neutral switch and it's still not cranking

Ok so I've got power back to everything but it's still not cranking. Like it does when you try to start it in gear but I've removed the neutral switch and it's still not cranking

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

ignition barrel seems to be ok as its switching on the fuel pump etc. its got me stumped

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#4 _toranarama_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:03 PM

Is the starter motor now working?

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#5 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:06 PM

Na not clicking or making any noise. I'm looking for a new neutral safety switch just to make sure it's not that

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#6 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:18 PM

Well it's not the neutral switches. Tried new ones on it. Tried tapping the starter with a hammer while trying to crank and no joy. Could it be the ecu? It's just a delco and their known to be crap.

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#7 _toranarama_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:25 PM

Do you know how to put a positive wire to the starter motor & get it turning over with a screwdriver across the terminals?

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#8 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:28 PM

I saw my dad do it many years ago but no I don't know. I did see if it had power and the pos had power at the starter.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:34 PM

I saw my dad do it many years ago but no I don't know. I did see if it had power and the pos had power at the starter.

Remove the violet wire from the male spade connector on the starter solenoid, then use a screwdriver to short the main cable connection on the solenoid across to the male spade connector. If the starter is working she will crank. If nothing then the starter might be stuffed.

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#10 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:40 PM

Ok did it and it cranked over. :-/ now what? Is their any way to check the ignition barrel? There is 3 terminals on that like I said though it's working from off to acc but going to on/crank no luck

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#11 _toranarama_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:43 PM

I hate to say this... But do you have any WD40 / RP-7 to spray in the key area of the ignition barrel ?

INOX would be best but ya gotta use what's on hand !

Oh, 2nd thing ... If you have your ignition to the "ON" position & crank the starter as discussed it should start

even though the barrel wont do it's job as normal. That's as long as you have the normal dash lights that come on

when the key is turned to the "on" position...

Edited by toranarama, 23 November 2011 - 08:46 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:44 PM

I've got a full bottle of both actually :-) give it a spray and see what happens?

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:45 PM

Ok did it and it cranked over. :-/ now what? Is their any way to check the ignition barrel? There is 3 terminals on that like I said though it's working from off to acc but going to on/crank no luck

So you have also tested with a volt meter and there isn't any power coming through the ignition switch to the violet starter wire?

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#14 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:47 PM

Ok so I have 0.07volts between the violet wire and the main wire I shorted to start it. It stayed the same if I tried to crank or left it the same

Edited by ryan_525, 23 November 2011 - 08:53 PM.

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#15 _toranarama_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:48 PM

Give it a spray... Wait 30 seconds for the propellant to evaporate.

Oh, 2nd thing ... If you have your ignition to the "ON" position & crank the starter as discussed it should start

even though the barrel wont do it's job as normal. That's as long as you have the normal dash lights that come on

when the key is turned to the "on" position...

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:51 PM

Nope no luck :-(

Ignition switch might be stuffed. As Gordon said, turn the ignition to the ON position and then use the screwdriver on the starter motor, the engine should start and run if the problem is only in the start circuit.

P.S. Make sure the tranny is in neutral and the handbrake is on.

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#17 _toranarama_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:54 PM

My ignition barrel fell out of my HR on the way to work once in ' 87 - Lucky I had the skill to hot wire my own car !

LOLOLOLOL

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#18 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:57 PM

I forgot to add this is a vn 355 in a LC torana so no dash lights appart from my autometre gauges.
Sorry should have mentioned this before.

It did start by shorting the starter but I can't take it to the tuner like that. Haha can I touch two wires together on the ignition barrel to start it in the car like that?

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:00 PM

My ignition barrel fell out of my HR on the way to work once in ' 87 - Lucky I had the skill to hot wire my own car !

LOLOLOLOL

You must be from the Southern side of town. LOL.

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#20 _Quagmire_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:01 PM

what module you running?
i.e a butchered lc barrel?
or the vn style?
you can take the barrel/lock bit out and use a screwdriver sometimes....or replace...
on vn's it's a 30 second job
and yes you can hotwire a vn easily....VERY EASILY

Edited by Quagmire, 23 November 2011 - 09:02 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:01 PM

I forgot to add this is a vn 355 in a LC torana so no dash lights appart from my autometre gauges.
Sorry should have mentioned this before.

It did start by shorting the starter but I can't take it to the tuner like that. Haha can I touch two wires together on the ignition barrel to start it in the car like that?

Ask Gordon (toranarama), he's an expert at hot wiring cars, apparently. :innocent:

Edited by S pack, 23 November 2011 - 09:04 PM.

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#22 _toranarama_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:01 PM

Yes you can, now's the time to put a "Push Start" button in !

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#23 _injlc304_

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:04 PM

Buggered if I know. It was in the car when I bought it years ago. It's a billet Colum with a chromed ign key switch thingy. Can pull it out quiet easy.