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IFS Front end LC LJ

Started by _waddingtons_ , Dec 20 2011 05:09 PM

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#1 _waddingtons_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:09 PM

Here is a few pics of the new IFS front end WADDINGTONS are making

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#2 _waddingtons_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:33 PM

few more pics

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#3 _waddingtons_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:39 PM

Front and rear rack available, coil over or airbag
Front ends will be around $3500

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#4 _Liam_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 06:28 PM

Cool, are these able to be used in Street Registered vehicles?

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#5 Toranamat69

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:09 PM

What have you done with the geometry compared with standard?

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#6 _Liam_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:14 PM

Are you planning to run the Steering rack behind the X-Member instead of the front?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:36 PM

Looks like you get your choice on rack position

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#8 _Liam_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:46 PM

Looks like you get your choice on rack position

Benefits of which would be?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:48 PM

That front end isn't restricted to just Toranas

Common conversion to Hotrods also
And Wad's plays with hotrods

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#10 _Liam_

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:52 PM

That front end isn't restricted to just Toranas

Common conversion to Hotrods also
And Wad's plays with hotrods

Fair enough, but what is the benefit? To run certain sumps or to have underslung alternators etc without too many issues on steering racks?

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:22 PM

Looks good, I like the Mc Donald bros cross member better as its tube steel, probably lighter?

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#12 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:36 PM

I would prefer torsional rigidity over weight savings on the front crossmember. Unless improved steering isn't important.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:39 PM

Making a k-frame out of tube will probably end up heavier than a sheet metal k-frame.

The problem with tube is it has the same strength in every direction whereas with sheet metal you can put the metal/strength only where it is required.

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#14 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:44 PM

I'd like to know what stub axle is used in the first image. And what discs/calipers will bolt straight on.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 08:38 PM

Good point

Making a k-frame out of tube will probably end up heavier than a sheet metal k-frame.

The problem with tube is it has the same strength in every direction whereas with sheet metal you can put the metal/strength only where it is required.

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#16 _waddingtons_

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 06:48 AM

Front ends come fully engineered. Will get more info and more photos of the finished item.
Many thanks Waddingtons

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#17 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:33 PM

Is power steering an option?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:04 AM

How much room is there with a rear rack for extractor and sump clearance?

looks pretty tight in the ebay photos?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 01:15 PM

Looks good, I like the Mc Donald bros cross member better as its tube steel, probably lighter?

McDonald brother not street legal.

Commodore power rack would mount on the back, just need to find/modify a sump to suit.
Easier (but more expensive) to get the Subaru Power steering conversion to fit on the front.......
Chase hotrods to find what they use......

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:30 PM

Benefits of which would be?

One month on and nobody has answered your question? I am disappointed with this place sometimes...

Having the steering rack behind the wheel axis means you can quite easily get toe-out on turns. Something that a Torana fails to do in standard form haha

But then you need to connect the steering column to the rack, and I definitely haven't looked into solutions for that.

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#21 _Liam_

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:24 PM

I see. I imagine the steering column would have a much more severe uni angle? Not to mention that K-Frame cleat with a hole for the tie to pass through would clash with it.

Cheers Heath, it isn't a drama for me, I have the big brother Torana haha.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:11 PM

I think the uni angle would be at a pretty severe extent of severity.

I'm assuming you mean it isn't a drama for you because this arrangement is only being made for baby Toranas not box Toranas, yes that is true. But the same steering geometry problem arises in box Toranas too!

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#23 _Liam_

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:40 PM

I think the uni angle would be at a pretty severe extent of severity.

I'm assuming you mean it isn't a drama for you because this arrangement is only being made for baby Toranas not box Toranas, yes that is true. But the same steering geometry problem arises in box Toranas too!

Yeah that's what I mean. I'm not too worried Heath, as long as I can steer it pretty well haha.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

Its not just built for Toranas
Waddingtons are hotrodders too....so I'm sure its designed for more applications
And not specifically as a Torana front... but just another option for rodders after a narrow front end
Not too many Torana folk will shell out for it
But plenty of hotrodders... worldwide might

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:43 PM

One month on and nobody has answered your question? I am disappointed with this place sometimes...

Yeah, I answered it this morning. The main benefit is greater selection of racks including more common rear types.

Crapping on about geometry with the rear mount is a waste of time.
Toranamat69 has done more R&D into this than Holden and he hasn't moved to a rear mounted rack.
If you set the rest of your geometry up right t doesn't matter whether it's front or back.......if the steering arm distance is the same to the tie rod then it doesn't matter......

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