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LC/J outer door weather strips

Started by ribz0 , Feb 05 2012 12:50 PM

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#1 ribz0

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 12:50 PM

Hi all..

Can anyone help me with info on how to fit these things!

I am working on the rear at the moment but will need to do the front as well... Do I have to remove the clips from the old ones and drill and fit to new ones?

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Also, the little bit that hangs out from the rest of it... does that go where the channel is on the rear quarter window?

any info would be great..

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#2 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:09 PM

Hey. I've recently been through this myself.

Basically, the aftermarket strips are wrong.

For a four dooor, they should have those metal clips on them.

But you have to use the 2 door style clips. Which you cannot buy.

These

http://www.ebay.com....9#ht_500wt_1361

Work, but i wasnt 100% happy with them.

Cheers.

Edited by Bomber Watson, 05 February 2012 - 01:10 PM.

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#3 ribz0

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:21 PM

Ok thanks.. I think.. lol..

I have all the old clips but it seems that I will have to drill the new ones to fit the clips...

Yes, it is a 4 door but they came clean as.. no clips attached...

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:40 PM

Another prob I have found is on the inside of the door, there are raised bits where the clips go into.. the new rubber strip bottom sits on the top of them but the outer channel does not fit as its too high!!

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Will I have to trim the bottom around each bit where the clips go to lower the whole lot?

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#5 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:43 PM

Should go over it. But you can trim if you wish.

Like i said, the outer weather strips are wrong. They are based off a 2 door one and just shortened. The manufacturers wont listen though.

Inner ones are wrong to for the rear, again, they wont listen.

Cheers.

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#6 _les_

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:15 PM

Should go over it. But you can trim if you wish.

Like i said, the outer weather strips are wrong. They are based off a 2 door one and just shortened. The manufacturers wont listen though.

Inner ones are wrong to for the rear, again, they wont listen.

Cheers.

We are listening, we removed the outer door belts from sale August last year and we are remaking them as per original. As for the inners what is the problem with them if they are wrong we will fix them.
Les

Edited by les, 05 February 2012 - 05:19 PM.

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#7 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

Back to the PM i sent you ages ago.

The rear inners clips are to wide to fit into the slots as per origional, so you have to fit them underneath the lip as per front doors and 2 door cars, which makes them sit very low and look shithouse.

Old mate you refereed me to tried to convince me they fit up as per the front doors, untill i sent him a copy of the genuine LC workshop manual, then he just ceased responding. obviously didnt want to know.

Cheers.

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#8 _les_

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:15 PM

Back to the PM i sent you ages ago.

The rear inners clips are to wide to fit into the slots as per origional, so you have to fit them underneath the lip as per front doors and 2 door cars, which makes them sit very low and look shithouse.

Old mate you refereed me to tried to convince me they fit up as per the front doors, untill i sent him a copy of the genuine LC workshop manual, then he just ceased responding. obviously didnt want to know.

Cheers.

You sent me a PM on 11/01/12 which I past on to Lance Corby and as far as I know he sorted the problem out with you , I do not know when you sent him the copy of the workshop manual but he has been on holidays since about the 16th of Jan he will be back to work 06/02/12 I will ask the question.
Les

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:28 PM

Quiet possibly he went on holidays as i was sending the copy.

Either way its been a month, and we were far from in agreeance at the time of the last email he sent me, a quick "im going on holidays" would not have hurt.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

I used "Sicaflex" was the easiest way

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#11 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:14 PM

Yeah im about to do that to on one of mine.

Toudh dodgy and shouldn't be required, but apparently it is.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:28 PM

Is Sicaflex a glue?

I had a good look with the original one and the clips will allow for the seal to overlap that raised bit.. I will give it a go as I would like to use the clips to hold it...

Gotta get the vynal tops glued on then take it from there...

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 01:34 PM

Should go over it. But you can trim if you wish.

Like i said, the outer weather strips are wrong. They are based off a 2 door one and just shortened. The manufacturers wont listen though.

Inner ones are wrong to for the rear, again, they wont listen.

Cheers.

If they are wrong and the manufacturer has confimed that they are wrong then what are they doing about people that have purchased them in good faith thinking that they would be fit for purpose.

In other industries manufacturers recall items that are faulity or do not work as intended.

I purchased a set of external weather strips for my 2 door around 12 mothns ago and am about to buy some clips to fit them. They were purchased from Rare Spares.

I have 2 questions

1. Will they fit
2. Will Rare spares clips work and are the ones below what I need ?

http://www.rarespare...?product=CP1086

cheers

Edited by torry nut, 06 February 2012 - 01:35 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:38 PM

If they are wrong and the manufacturer has confimed that they are wrong then what are they doing about people that have purchased them in good faith thinking that they would be fit for purpose.

In other industries manufacturers recall items that are faulity or do not work as intended.

I purchased a set of external weather strips for my 2 door around 12 mothns ago and am about to buy some clips to fit them. They were purchased from Rare Spares.

I have 2 questions

1. Will they fit
2. Will Rare spares clips work and are the ones below what I need ?

http://www.rarespare...?product=CP1086

cheers

The clips shown in that link are for the inner belt strip not the outer belt weather strip.
I have not personally used a set of Rare Spares 2dr outer belt weather strips but I saw them when they were first released and compared side by side to an original NOS strip they are near identical.

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#15 _Nitter_

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

Here is nos (top) and rares.....they are spot on

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I used the clips on the link below and contact glue.

http://www.ebay.com....=item23188b2164

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#16 _Bomber Watson_

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 06:47 PM

Yeah those rares clips are the wrong ones.

You having a two door yourse should be correct. All the outer weather strips are based on the two door one, even though the four door had a different design. Same for the inners.

It seems the supplier is doing very little. I agree its BS but hey, where else are we gonna go??

If les isnt telling porky pies it seems the four door outer strips have been pulled off the shelf and correct ones are being made up, but i wouldnt hold my breath and i highly doubt people will be given compensation for the incorrect parts, as with all of the other rares incorrect parts which sadly you have to buy before you find out.

The Betta auto rubber outers are also wrong for a four door, there identical to the rares ones (repackaged rares??)

Cheers.

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 09:31 PM

Boy.. is it F@#Kin BS!!! What a pain in the butt!!!

I spent all day trying to get this right, close, but not 100% happy yet!

I drilled the new outer seals to take the old clips which worked ok...

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This is how it looks for now.. not too bad but need to fix the front a bit.. not sure why it done that..

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The inner worked out good as they come with clips...

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One thing that made it a pain for the inner was the vynal.. I had to trim so the clips would go in...

These were from Batta Auto Rubber. The door seals are awesome though!!!

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:40 PM

Hi Eric

I don't wish to be critical and it's been a long time since I worked on 4dr LC/LJ but I have a suspicion that you've got the inner belt strip clips upside down. I'm pretty sure they are supposed to be installed so the hair felt strip pushes down into them and sits higher up on the panel.

Cheers
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:45 PM

The Betta auto rubber outers are also wrong for a four door, there identical to the rares ones (repackaged rares??)

Cheers.

You've done it now Bomber, I'm intrigued, so now I'm going to have to go and check out the Rare Spares 4dr outer strips on Saturday.

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 10:55 PM

Hi Dave.. not at all and you are right...

Its been a while since I pulled it all apart and the manual doesnt show things too well...
I had a look at some of the pics I took and the they do show them the way you said... I also had a look at the old vynal so yes, I got it very wrong... oh well, tomorrow is another day...

Cheers!

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:52 PM

Much better Dave...

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The other 3 doors are easy now that I stuffed around with the first door for a few days... always easy when you know how...

Note to self... put the glass in first...

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 07:09 PM

Yeah i was gonna mention that to lol, S pack beat me to it.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:37 PM

lol... gotta have a laugh along the way... dont matter at who's expence it is...

Them back doors are a pain in the butt as they dont go all the way down like the front... no matter, slowly slowly....

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:12 PM

Hi all...

Well... I stuffed up one set of the rear strips so got myself another pair... One of the last jobs I'm getting to... bugger... I have been avoiding them hoping the fairy would do them for me.... bloody slack fairies!!!

Anyways... HELP!!!!

Can anyone throw up some pics on what they did to fit these f#@kin things!!

Yes, I know no-one makes them to fit... but that dont help me... I have played with one I buggered up and it seems if I reduce the depth so the strip sits above the original clip bits on the inside of the door, and cut slits in it so it will bend to the shape of the rear door, it may sit ok... I was going to Sicaflex them in like Limo suggested....

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 02:04 PM

HI all...

Well, I had a crack at the F@#King rear outers and I gotta say... this is the worst job out of the whole car!!! Stuffin things!!!

I ended up sticking them on with the bostik stuff... I had to trim them and cut grooves into them so they would bend to the shape of the rear door...

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I cut the steps out of it so they would slide down flat inbetween the lugs inside of the door....

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I then cut slits into the bottom most of the way along... this made them flex and it was easy to get the curve into it....

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Bostik them on so will see how it all dries....

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Becuase I cut the slits into them, I could not use the clips even if I wanted to.... It's a bit rough but how else could I do it? Not being able to get right outers that fit is an issue.... one day someone might make them....

Now to touch up the paint I stuffed up..... :banghead:

Cheers