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[zodiac GTR]

Can this information be used for the engineer ?

http://www.automobil...1_bathurst.html

Edited by zodiac GTR, 05 February 2012 - 10:59 PM.

[dattoman]

I believe its about what your engineer might accept... so ask him

He might not like random internet pages
Might be a hard copy paper guy

And wasn't this asked 3 times this week and covered already ?

[zodiac GTR]

I believe its about what your engineer might accept... so ask him

He might not like random internet pages
Might be a hard copy paper guy

And wasn't this asked 3 times this week and covered already ?

yeh it has,no official answer though.
mate I'm trying everything with one of those super slow computers if you know what I mean.

if I can't ask here,then where can I .
just trying to get as much information as I can, it might even help other people, who knows ?

maybe someone has been through all this already and could put me on the right track,
searching has been hell on this computer,even waiting to bring up a page takes forever.

cheers

[dattoman]

Not saying don't ask

But the reality of it is no-one here has your answer
Only your rego authority and engineer can answer for you
Everything here is just speculative
Yes theres dozens of cars here done the way you want them.... but those owners aren't coming forward... maybe they don't have engineering

Ask your ego authority... get their answer and why
Then seek out the proof you need in written documents to support your case if its different to theirs
But the final answer is theirs... so ask them first

[zodiac GTR]

Not saying don't ask

But the reality of it is no-one here has your answer
Only your rego authority and engineer can answer for you
Everything here is just speculative
Yes theres dozens of cars here done the way you want them.... but those owners aren't coming forward... maybe they don't have engineering

Ask your ego authority... get their answer and why
Then seek out the proof you need in written documents to support your case if its different to theirs
But the final answer is theirs... so ask them first

point taken,and your right.
thanks

[RBTORY]

Whats the problem your having Zodiac?

[Dr Terry]

Yeah, I was going to ask a similar question.

What do you need to know ? I have the kerb weights of all LC/LJ variants in the appendix of my book & could provide copies of original source material if required.

Precisely what figures do you need.

Dr Terry

[ls2lxhatch]

zodiac GTR it would be easier if you did not start a new topic for each question on the subject.

http://www.gmh-toran...c-inch-formula/

[zodiac GTR]

Yeah, I was going to ask a similar question.

What do you need to know ? I have the kerb weights of all LC/LJ variants in the appendix of my book & could provide copies of original source material if required.

Precisely what figures do you need.

Dr Terry

engineer tells me I cant put a 308 into a LJ according to this graph .
told me to find a heavier variant in the LJ series 1100Kg or over,
his guild lines only have the LJ at 1064Kg,and basis his calculations on that(not just him,I've rang a few)
surfing the net brings up to many variations . under and over.
mate of mine did this conversion last year and had no problems ( may 2011) same engineer told me these are the new rules.
he doesn't want anything from the Internet he wants something more substantial if he's going to sign off on it.

cheers

zodiac GTR it would be easier if you did not start a new topic for each question on the subject.

http://www.gmh-toran...c-inch-formula/

sorry,
I'm hopeless at this

[RBTORY]

Ive spoken too two engineers and both are willing to take the gtr weight for initial value.

[Dr Terry]

The official weight of an LJ XU1 is 1096 kg.

Dr Terry

[ls2lxhatch]

From the other thread.

60 Years of Holden by Terry Bebbington aka Dr Terry pg 336.

LC GTR XU1 1102 kg
LJ GTR XU1 1096 kg

In theory you should be able to use the LC weight which just gets you into the next category.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 09 February 2012 - 02:42 PM.

[RBTORY]

Cheers guys
Dr Terry any idea of the exact weight of a auto 202 lj s 2 dr just curious cause i never weighed my car prior to modifying it, thanks

Edited by RBTORY, 09 February 2012 - 08:46 PM.

[zodiac GTR]

The official weight of an LJ XU1 is 1096 kg.

Dr Terry

Would you know of a heavier lj in the series ?
Doesn't have to be gtr or xu1.
Cheers

[S pack]

Would you know of a heavier lj in the series ?
Doesn't have to be gtr or xu1.
Cheers

LJ XU1 is the heaviest.

[zodiac GTR]

LJ XU1 is the heaviest.

Bathurst ?

[dattoman]

Racecars don't count
And the "Bathurst" name isn't a model... its someones dream

And if anything... depending who prepped the cars they might have been sneaky and dropped weight off them
I guess your stuck with the published figures
Unless you can convince someone otherwise

[zodiac GTR]

Racecars don't count
And the "Bathurst" name isn't a model... its someones dream

And if anything... depending who prepped the cars they might have been sneaky and dropped weight off them
I guess your stuck with the published figures
Unless you can convince someone otherwise

thanks

[zodiac GTR]

What state are you in? Have you started it or brought the motor yet, only asking because if you can prove that you owned the car and started it before the new rules came on the rta and some engineers are allowing these to be completed and rego before June 2012. If you are in nsw and meet the above details I can give you a number of a engineer who can help

I'm in melbourne ,victoria , car wont be ready this year ?

[zodiac GTR]

I have modified the LC shop manual slightly.. In case the engineer already has a copy, tell him this is from the February 1974 revison which is quite rare and difficult to come by... the scan is of the 3rd page.... worth a go, I have bumped 3 of the models over the 1100kg mark. if its not high enough quality I can email you a copy or you might be able to click on it and grab it from my photobucket album..

thanks

[ls2lxhatch]

The manufacturers tare is required not the actual weight of the vehicle.


NCOP3 Section LA Engine V2 01Jan2011 [PDF: 218 KB]

The mass of the vehicle referred to in Tables LA1, LA2 and LA3 is the original (unmodified) tare mass of the model vehicle fitted with the largest engine available for the model in Australia but without optional accessories (air conditioning, tow bars etc.). The mass of the vehicle, whether it is a sedan, station wagon, utility, etc., should be based on the heaviest sedan version of the model (not station wagon version) sold in Australia.

[S pack]

What is wrong with weighing the car in question, and useing the weight ticket? surely that would be correct!

I have done this before for trailers and a couple of cars, I just went to my local weigh bridge and had it weighed!

1973 LJ's would be lighter than 1972 LJ's and factory Race prepared LJ's are lighter again!

Normal 1973 LJ's are lighter as they have smaller lucas Alternators with inbuilt regulators and shorter Lucas starters with aluminum windings too.

Mike

Yeah those things might have cut the weight a little bit but then add on some extra weight for the double skin transmission tunnel, the floor pan braces just behind the front wheels, the stone tray braces and the revised gearbox cross member.

So all in all probably not much difference between the weight of a 72 and 73 Torana of the same build spec.
More than likely the 73 LJ would come up a little bit heavier.