I think they should go a diff way, they've already come up with this design so they should use it the way it is, but make it into more of a "tuner friendly car" just like the new Toyota & Subaru BRZ-86 thingy. Those cars can easily be transformed into animals once the WRX STi engines are installed - they drop straight in I'm told without any stuffing around what so ever.
Imagine if they used that formula with this new car but you could drop a LSX engine & 6spd in!!! That thing will be a weapon once someone rolls it into a tuners shop. It doesn't have to be called torana, Gemini, camira etc...
2012 Torana who wants one ?
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:17 AM
They should build a New Torana in the P T Cruiser vain, it looks like a older Torana with the Modern V6 and V8 Gear, i think thats the only way Holcen could do it, but it gets down to the all mighty dollar of course, how many P T Cruiser wrere made and sold, were they a big hit, if Holden look at the P T Sales and see if its worth it i guess.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:28 AM
I forgot to add that they should make the base car relatively cheap like the BRZ-86, $20k -$30k to get younger people excited again about driving smaller, safer rear wheel drive Holden's again. A 18yr old can't buy a new commodore that's $35k so what do they do, they generally buy a older used commodore for $15k -$25 so this would get them into a newer safer car.
Plus the cheaper the base car equals more sales plus more cash left over for mods which would crate more cash/ jobs in the industry. Can't really see a bad thing here.
Plus the cheaper the base car equals more sales plus more cash left over for mods which would crate more cash/ jobs in the industry. Can't really see a bad thing here.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 04:25 PM
I think they should go a diff way, they've already come up with this design so they should use it the way it is, but make it into more of a "tuner friendly car" just like the new Toyota & Subaru BRZ-86 thingy. Those cars can easily be transformed into animals once the WRX STi engines are installed - they drop straight in I'm told without any stuffing around what so ever.
Imagine if they used that formula with this new car but you could drop a LSX engine & 6spd in!!! That thing will be a weapon once someone rolls it into a tuners shop. It doesn't have to be called torana, Gemini, camira etc...
Dude, it's hard enough as it is to get LS motor engineered/registered in the Torana's and they came out with V8's, it would be next to impossible to do it to these.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:16 PM
Correct.
And i highly doubt you would get away with putting a junker LS1 or similar in one, probably wouldnt make the new poofy emissions laws.
Cheers.
And i highly doubt you would get away with putting a junker LS1 or similar in one, probably wouldnt make the new poofy emissions laws.
Cheers.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:23 AM
i say just leave the "Torana" name alone call it something else !!! we have our Torana's just like we have our statsmans and all of our other real cars, yes even the frauds, they had the hide to call a 2 door commodore a Monaro which in turn looks nothing like a bloody Monaro !!!
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:35 AM
Couldnt agree more Lee. Holdens marketing department would think otherwise though.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:00 PM
Besides a the name I cant see the similarity. Cant imagine one driving around bathurst either.
I remember the last time they tried reinventing the torana... this looks like its heading down
the same path.
Anyhows upto the Holden hierarchy and the market i suppose.
I remember the last time they tried reinventing the torana... this looks like its heading down
the same path.
Anyhows upto the Holden hierarchy and the market i suppose.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:35 AM
they had the hide to call a 2 door commodore a Monaro which in turn looks nothing like a bloody Monaro !!!
But at least it had v8 power as an option
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:56 AM
But at least it had v8 power as an option
This is true but still nothing like a Monaro
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 06:39 PM
2 door Kingswood was a Monaro... Or rather a 2 door version of the run of the mill fleet.... Ie Kingswood, Premier and the then Commodore.
2 door coupes for HK-HG-HT Monaro
2 door coupes for HQ-HX-HZ-WB
2 door coupes for VX-VY-VZ
So technically it was a Monaro.
2 door coupes for HK-HG-HT Monaro
2 door coupes for HQ-HX-HZ-WB
2 door coupes for VX-VY-VZ
So technically it was a Monaro.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 08:08 PM
2 door Kingswood was a Monaro... Or rather a 2 door version of the run of the mill fleet.... Ie Kingswood, Premier and the then Commodore.
2 door coupes for HK-HG-HT Monaro
2 door coupes for HQ-HX-HZ-WB
2 door coupes for VX-VY-VZ
So technically it was a Monaro.
no no no Liam a real Monaro was also built with style and class and not plastic
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:09 PM
no no no Liam a real Monaro was also built with style and class and not plastic
Haha I agree, but the premise remains.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:33 PM
Liam and i think the same.....
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:33 AM
Call it a Gemini. Who gives a frOck if that name is resurrected.
I couldnt think of anything worse than conversing with some polo neck shirted, corduroy pantsed poonce telling me all about his cool Torana and trying to find some sort commonality between us. Our cars are not just a name, they represent an era, a culture and an identity.
I wont buy one, Ive already got a run of the mill modern Holden, its called a Commodore.
You make a great point there Big T,
If they are going to release this car and use the "torana identity", then the car has to earn it. I don't really think thats going to be possible, what with V8 super cars being the almost identical vehicles they are today. The torana to me represents a history in Australian Motorsport, which as much as we'd like, will never be repeated...
That's not to say I wouldn't mind seeing another concept design created, and maybe shown off at a motorshow. But that's it, and only for the sole reason it makes me even more happy and proud to own mine....
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