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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:23 PM

Pat gardiners kits aren't bad but the instructions are a bit vague and you will need to work out a lot of the details yourself.. As to the ac I am looking at a vintage air setup which i've been quoted $2100 to supply and fit because I've already got a compressor.

I dont know if you have bought your V6 wiring harness but i found Pat from V6 conversions hopless to deal with. I bought a kit to suit 5L to LX and nothing fitted. Aftersales service if you could evently reach him on the phone was poor and wiring instuctions was 2 photocopyed bits of paper.I would hope that he has picked up his game as im not the only one not happy with him.


Yep well, not really much of an improvement but I now have 3 sheets of light on instructions so maybe a 33% increase? I was re-reading Pat's EH story in an old street machine mag and he really was one of the first to work out the conversion. Seeing as his speciality has always been V6 maybe the 5L crossover was outside his comfort zone??? They seem friendly enough so far, but I haven't had to ring back with installing dramas yet which can always test a workshop friendship. The kit looks pretty good though. Posted Image

The hurricane A/C unit at http://www.oldairproducts.com/catalog/ is defintely more compact and the ducts open to the front which would make hooking up to the side and floor vents a bit easier but it is a bit boxy looking. Damn I can't decide now, I am still waiting to get the quote for the vintage air gear. The old Mark IV cool only under dash unit is such an easy looking install option but in my experience they are a bit weak in super hot conditions and don't blow on the driver. The whole thing is not rocket science it's just a case of getting the right fit and running the pipes to the right spots. [IMG https://cache.gmh-to...LHACairflow.jpg[/IMG]

Maybe size doesn't matter ??? .... :<_<: :<_<: ... Yeah right ... so anyway darwin is the same sort of weather as Saigon and Guatemala so lots of incentive to go as big as possible (the hilux conversion is maybe a bit too crowded). Check out the old service manual schematics. I wonder if anyone is still running the old factory units? The design is not too bad, bit messy in the engine bay I suppose. The old manuals have everything you ever needed to know. Anyone need something posted let me know.
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[IMG]https://cache.gmh-torana.com.au/i1169.photobucket.com/albums/r513/slaaar/ACschematic.jpg[/IMG].

So, to have a break from A/C dramas I started to look at the VT brake booster, master cylinder and discs for swap over and got completely lost in the whole 15" wheels, backspacers, caliper clearance and stub axle patterns issues and freaked out. You've gotta love restoring cars don't you? So many options and so few answers. Sheeeze, might have to crack a beer and think about it some more.... :wacko:

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:09 PM

Hi, I'm just starting to pull down rthe VT brakes to see what parts I can change over to the LH. I think the boooster & master cylinder should be okay. I read here that 50mm needs to come off the VT booster pushrod and the hole drilled out to match torana pedal. You can see the comparison of the LH & VT master cylinders for size and brakeline locations.
Posted Image Posted Image It will look a bit neater to get rid of the seperate torana proportioning valve from the bay. I have to put the VT master cylinder bracket in too somehow to help reduce flex under load. Posted Image

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:44 PM

of course the VT brake booster is a different pattern to LH booster. Damn, another bit that won't fit. :Headbang2: This project thread is becoming the sad summary of the things you can't use with VT donor car for torana upgrades. I missed some useful threads like http://www.gmh-toran...-master-on-lhx/ and mis-read info for comm changeover and am stooopid. Note to self more research & less optimism. Comparison picture to save any future wannabes the hassle.
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If I want to use the VT m/c still should I get a VR booster unit and maybe get brake shop to interchange VR booster front with LH booster rear like Rob (SS Hatchback)?

Does anyone know how hard to separate the booster halves or is it forbidden, impossible, secret shop business ... ???

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:16 AM

Got the VT V6 motor finally dropped into LH last night but absolutely nothing easy about this conversion so far.

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:43 PM

The new air con evaporator unit and controls have arrived too. Bewdy  

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:25 PM

Looks like I might have to do A/C conversions to as well as the power steering racks, The hatch A/C works fantactic on a 42 deg day it can pull the cabin temp down to 23 deg and I still can have hot air conditioned air to the demister and works off the standard torana controls.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:27 PM

Faark Lenny.

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:17 PM

Hi Welby, I have three customers over here that want me to convert their air boxes to suit the denso air system. I will modify my SLR air box soon and may post up how to carry out the mod. It's easy to do, it just took lots of thinking on the hatch system, but now I have it sussed and tried and tested it's straight foward with some basic skills. The photos I have of the hatch on the cardomain site make the A/C unit look like it huge and hangs down heaps under the glove box but it dosen't. You only see the lower four inches of the unit when in the drivers seat. I also made up a new glove box insert that is only slighty smaller than the original but very handy to still have one for the gloves or what ever you want to toss in there.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:35 PM

Thanks Lenny.

 

Very keen to see what you have come up with.






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