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#26 _Skapinad_

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

Why store tyres, do burnouts on the old ones....then buy new ones...easy..


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:57 PM

Nothing about whats on the car, just what they can and cant touch, so ADR etc is irrelevant.

Sadly i was there during my lunch break, so i didnt have time to ask them to print me out a signed copy of the legislatiton and sit there with my little eye glasses and examine it.

Perhaps you can come to QLD, go into a tire shop and inquire for yourself?

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No need for the smart alec response, wasn't insisting that you specifically track the relevant docs down, just asking...if anyone has any knowledge of where to find them? the OP is from Perth, so I gather you are claiming it is a federal reg?

Edited by torbirdie, 03 November 2012 - 07:00 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

I was given that impression yes.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:35 PM

Why store tyres, do burnouts on the old ones....then buy new ones...easy..

I agree.........(not the burnouts bit) but I can't find anyone selling new 225/60/13's and the 205's are hard to find.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

I didn't think 225/50R13s had been around since the Bridgestone Egars? I know others have been asking about them, but i have not seen them for years and years. I know there are still a few places making 205/60R13's thank goodness. If we can't get them we will have to go to 14" or skinny stockies.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

we sell tyres. we can sell a tyre that is 20 yrs old if we want. theres no rule on age. The seven year rule is just a myth but we even see 3 year old tyres that are cracking fairly badly. really the only way a lot of tyre shops will have really old stock is if its a really odd size tyre which nowdays if a customer doesnt show up they just get sent back. . We only keep about 160 tyres and there would be none of which are 4 months old. I got delivered a bridgestone last week that was 18 months old but it went back. Bomber a dented rim is a dented rim. a tube wont help its cause. really they shouldnt be putting a tube on a rim that was designed for tubeless anyway

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

Really? Seems fine now after i flogged it back out with a bit of wood and got a new tyre fitted?

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:37 PM

we sell tyres. we can sell a tyre that is 20 yrs old if we want. theres no rule on age. The seven year rule is just a myth ....


thanks for that, explains why I couldnt find any regs relating to it.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

Seems the tyre shop was bullshitting either way.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:40 PM

Public liability should stop any tyre shop from fitting old tyres. If something went wrong and was deemed the result of an old tyre, the shop knowingly fitting them is going to be up shit creek...

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

Used to be a good deal so long as you took them a rim with a tyre on it that wasnt attached to anything they would just do what you asked.....

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:13 PM

I spoke to a mate today who owns a tyre power store.
He said they don't care how old the tyre is if you bring it in to be fitted, as long as it's in good condition. (ie no cracks)
The age of the tyre only affected the manufactures warranty, not its safety. A good tyre fitter will always check the tyre over first.
As to storing tyres, his opinion is it fine as long as you store them in a cool dark place should be fine. UV is the biggest problem.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:06 PM

It was a tyrpower store where i was knocked back.

I might have to wander in and ask to see this legislation after all, feeling annoyed now.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:35 PM

Just had a flat fixed on one of my Eagers (got to be pushing 18-19 years old) and asked the guys at my local tyrepower and they told me that they are not allowed to sell new stuff over five years old but its up to their discretion on what old stuff they repair eg if its in good nick and 20 years old they dont have a problem.

Also asked whats around in a 13 inch 225 60 series and they just laughed should of bought a couple a sets 20 years ago........ bugger

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:41 PM

http://www.antiquety...m.au/catalogue/
they won't be cheap but they are available

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:11 AM

asked the guys at my local tyrepower and they told me that they are not allowed to sell new stuff over five years old


Possibly just a company policy as there still appears to be no regulations on this in Australia.

The issue, afaik, has mainly had its roots in the US where there have been several incidences where 10+ year old tyres have failed at speed and ended with very bad consequences.

Where will it go, the average car tyre driving sedately can easily last 100 000km(Im not talking about tyres like eagers that wear out quicker than a pair of 50 cent thongs) and there are many who drive only 3-10k a year would only be looking at replacing tyres once in 10 years or so. are we going to get regs that say you cant have more than seven year old tyres on your car?

How would that affect the enthusiast who perhaps has several cars to have to retyre them every 7 years regardless of how far they are driven or how they are stored.

I think the tyre industry is possible in a catch 22 position here. They'd obviously sell a lot more tyres with such a reg, but by making too much noise about it now(before any reg has been passed) they would be faced with creating too much customer awareness with consumers refusing to buy anything more than a few months old and having to have major sales to clear the unsold stock.

As i understand it rubber will deteriorate within itself with time, so even if kept in total darkness in a vacuum or a "rubber" atmosphere they will still go off.
Some of the instances in the US happened from the inside out, meaning that the obvious deteration/cracking/hardness due to uv is not the only consideration.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:36 PM

tyrepower is independently owed ..ie run by a different manager/owner tmk not a national chain like bob jane etc
so they set thier own rules from store to store and use the "catalog specials" as guidelines....
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