
t5 conversion idea, thoughts
#26
Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:24 PM
#27
_pinklx_
Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:36 AM
#28
Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:27 PM
#29
Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:31 PM
So there must be a 5.0 turbo pattern to ford B pattern Holden depth bellhousing about, mid VR to VS pre getrag 290?
Let me know how the stang extension housing goes length wise as I see them on Ebay etc for around the $50 mark, I guess there is the speedo drive issue to contend with as well.
The other option is single rail bellhousing and ford ext housing, use V8 gearset and mustang input, anyway, will keep searching some more.
#30
Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:50 PM
#31
_pinklx_
Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:10 PM
#32
_nemo355v8_
Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:12 PM
As luck would have it the difference in input shaft length make the shifter in the exact same as the aussie box.
Take your measurements from bellhousing to block face back to shifter
Edited by nemo355v8, 08 November 2012 - 10:14 PM.
#33
_pinklx_
Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:30 PM
#34
_pinklx_
Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:47 PM
#35
_nemo355v8_
Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:20 PM
Hint TE TF Cortina 6cyl auto or manual speedo cable will slip straight in to a T5 and has the same clip at the speedo head, correct length
#36
_pinklx_
Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:23 AM
#37
Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:55 PM
#38
_pinklx_
Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:06 AM
im still waiting for the drive gear to arrive from the states. after that gets here i should be able to assemble the box and get exact messurements to compare to the aussie box i have.
Also the toploader bellhouseing i have here dosent seem to have quite enough meat on the bottom of it for the two lower holes to be drilled, im thinking of welding a few lumps on it to give me the room i need.
only other option would be to use a gforce case with the toploader pattern on it.
Im also converting it to a ram hydrulic throwout bearing while im going, i think it should end up interesting.
#39
_pinklx_
Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:51 PM
#40
_pinklx_
Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:06 PM
next job is to shorten the shift rail 51mm. u could just use a stock mustang shift rail but i dont have one so i will be cutting the ford one.
anyway heres a photo of it so far.
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#41
_Azza_
Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:31 PM
Very interested to see how this all fits in. I used a VN V8 T5 on my LX and I had to cut the front seat support member to get the shifter to fit in. I regret doing that and always will. I did it due to getting bad advice from some idiot Auto Wreckers. Anyway, very keen to see some photos of it in the car.
What engine are you bolting it all up to? I bolted mine up to a 253, non turbo pattern, so I needed an additional adaptor plate to go between the T5 box and the bellhousing. This pushed the gearbox back a further 40mm..
I'm really keen to move this gearbox forward so I can repair the floor properly. Everything is welded up at the moment but I just regret doing it, so I want it changed.
I'm glad you're going through all this effort and doing your own research. I've learnt that going on advice from someone trying to sell you a product is probably the worst thing you can do..
When I go to my car next I'll get some photos of where mine is sitting and some measurements.
Cheers
#42
_pinklx_
Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:42 PM
#43
_Azza_
Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:47 PM
Cheers
#44
_Azza_
Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:51 PM
I just need it forward enough to clear the seat support so I can reinforce it again.
#45
Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:15 PM
Commodore mounts will bring it further forward but you would reduce oil capacity a bit much after you modified the sump to fit, and of course a Torana certainly doesn't need the weight shifted further forwardHey I forgot to mention, have you considered making custom engine mounts which bring the engine forward further? Or does anyone know if there are any mounts that can do this?
#46
_pinklx_
Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:35 PM
i will take a second look at that aussie bellhouseing again when i get a chance. i dont think it would be hard to modify.
#47
_pinklx_
Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:49 AM
you would also have to change the clutch disk (not the pressure plate) to a ford v8 one. aslo minnor mods to the crossmember. and your tailshaft would be 38mm too short, and a differant spiggot bearing as well.
the ford boxs also have lower raitios 1 thru 3rd and are cheap as chips. v8 boxs for holdens still go for good money. the most ive payed for a ford 6 t5 is $50.
#48
_Azza_
Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:03 PM
It was about 5 years ago I bought everything for the setup so the memory aint the best. It's a trimatic pattern bellhousing I think out of a commodore. Then there is an adaptor plate bolted to the bellhousing, and the gearbox bolts to the plate. The adaptor is about 40mm thick, that's probably to cater for the longer V8 shaft I assume?
Are there any differences between the 6 and 8 gearboxes strength wise? Or is it mainly just the ratio's that differ? I am running a 3.9 ratio diff as well. I'm not the best when working with ratio's, would you know what gearbox would best suit the diff?
Cheers
#49
_pinklx_
Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:42 AM
if u have a 40mm spacer on an aussie bell u must be running a commodore v6 box. it has a realy long input shaft, 240mm??? from memeory. or u have a v8 box on a t5g bellhouseing.
most t5s we have in aus are pretty much as strong as each other (all weak as piss) but some people say because of the ratios in the v8 boxs they are a little stronger. the differance is minimal tho. a stock 5L driven not overly hard can break one.
bro you realy need to mesure the distance from the back of your block to the gearbox main case to get an idea what input shaft length u are running that would tell me what box you have. also look at the bellhouseing i think ware the starter motor bulge is and see if it has hdt cast on it or up the top below the dizzy i think is where they put hsv. im goin off memeory here and theres been alot of jack danials between when i saw one last and now.
as for those diff gears a v8 ratio box would be better as there taller ratios in the first 3 gears. if u run a 6cly box they are lower in the first three gears so u would be better off with tall diff gears, say 3.25, 3.5 depending on tyer size. the one advantage of going that way is you can still get the nice acelleration in the lower gears but get better hyw cruiseing and ecconomy.
one thing i have been looking into for the ford 6 boxs is astro performace in the states are now makeing full internals for these e series boxs, you can buy a kit for around 1800us that will make them handel 600f/lbs. a stock t5 is over rated at 300. the word is that an astro fitted t5 ford 6 box will out last a tremec tko600 and be half the size and weight.
thats the main reason im sticking with the ford 6 setup and trying to make it fit without mods to the car so if it all works out i'll buy an astro kit and pretty much never have to worrie about it again. btw the astro kit is actually made in v8 ratios.
i guess in the end its all about what u plan on doing to/with the car and what parts u have now to work with to solve your problem. trust me if u have a hdt or hsv bellhouseing in that car u could near pull it out n sell it and buy a brand new dellow bellhouseing and a used ford 6 box n maybe have enough left over for a carton.
Edited by pinklx, 13 February 2013 - 10:49 AM.
#50
_dan111_
Posted 04 December 2014 - 10:17 AM
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