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[S pack]

so you've never spun the wheels/lost control on a wet/gravelly road ever?
i find this hard to believe
or your mark skaife ....

Al, it's impossible to spin the wheels on a mobility scooter, no matter how hard you accelerate.

[Collo]

A car enthusiast should have enough skill not to spin the wheels

Being a car enthusiast doesn't equate to driving skill.

While I agree it's not that hard to generally drive without spinning the wheels, the fact someone is a car enthusiast has no bearing on their ability to drive.

Edited by slr_v8, 16 November 2012 - 08:28 PM.

[enderwigginau]

We have many here claiming that they are car enthusiasts, but then in the same sentence they bleet on about how they could get they car consficated for spinning the wheels "accidently"! A car enthusiast should have enough skill not to spin the wheels, even taking off up hill on wet tram tracks.
Spinning the wheels doesnt happen by an act of god, it comes from putting the foot down too hard.

Your grasp of reality is tenuous at best.......
I've worked on and with roads for a long time and have been involved in motorsport.........if you seriously believe that ANY driver can NEVER be overtaken by conditions (road, traffic, weather, etc) then you'll never understand any reasonable discussion..........

Being a car enthusiast doesn't equate to driving skill.

While I agree it's not that hard to generally drive without spinning the wheels, the fact someone is a car enthusiast has no bearing on their ability to drive.

Sense........others should take note and copy..........

[S pack]

So that's what the new regs say, no fluid in washer bottle and car is impounded for three months. That is the problem here, people surmising about what is going to happen based on nothing but hearsay and fearmongering.

Oh dear, you sir seem to posses a reasonable lack of comprehension of the the written English language. Joshua never stated or implied anything of the sort.

[S pack]

but then again, I dont have "look at me features" added to my vehicle., tyres scraping the fenders, loud exhaust , items protruding from bonnet, midget steering wheel etc.

And that is your choice, others choose to individualise their cars, hopefully within the the limits of lawfully allowed modifications.
Yes modified cars will be targeted by the authorities (and they don't have to be old shitboxes), anything that is not bog stock factory standard will warrant closer scrutiny by the Police and transport authorities.

If the government thinks modified vehicles present a serious risk on our roads then maybe it's about time they outlaw modifications of any sort, the only exception being manufacturers approved accessories.

[Shtstr]

TORBIRDE I here by offer you a to come for a drive in my car with a solid brass button clutch to show you how easy it is to do it just by getting the car moveing, not only that but how easy it is to light the tyres when accelarateing up to the speed limit on the hiway from a standing start.
Will do it on a race track so i can't be pined for it also.
You have obvious had very little knollage of modified cars and have never owned one and tried to drive one in wet weather. I won't even take mine out it the wet as i know it will spin the wheels and not by wanting too. I only have to let it go over 3000rpm. Even tho i don't take it out in wet weather thats not saying i might get caught out in wet weather as the weather can change.
I know my LSD diff will cause one wheel to skip on a louse surface(gravel or smoth concrete or grass).
So if i was you i would start to reframe from making coments about people being novious drivers as i have over 20 years of race driveing behind myself in speedway driveing tin tops to super sedans.
I think the only NOVIOUS here is you.

[S pack]

one reason why all this whinging about the hoon laws isnt doing any of you any good, government might take an even closer look at the problem and take the lead of many of the european countries.

Yes, that could eventuate (anything is possible with our current 'Nanny State mindset' governments) but not likely.
Cigarettes and alcohol present two great health and social risks that Lobby groups would love to see the politicians eradicate from society.
Q: Why do Governments only tinker around the edges in relation to these issues and not prohibit them.
A: Prohibition doesn't work and revenue stream.

How long before we get a tax on the fat and sugar content in food?- not long to go now, but you won't see McDonalds or Hungry Jacks or KFC etc etc etc being banned.
Apologies for getting a bit off topic.

[S pack]

TORBIRDE I here by offer you a to come for a drive in my car with a solid brass button clutch to show you how easy it is to do it just by getting the car moveing, not only that but how easy it is to light the tyres when accelarateing up to the speed limit on the hiway from a standing start.
Will do it on a race track so i can't be pined for it also.
You have obvious had very little knollage of modified cars and have never owned one and tried to drive one in wet weather. I won't even take mine out it the wet as i know it will spin the wheels and not by wanting too. I only have to let it go over 3000rpm. Even tho i don't take it out in wet weather thats not saying i might get caught out in wet weather as the weather can change.
I know my LSD diff will cause one wheel to skip on a louse surface(gravel or smoth concrete or grass).
So if i was you i would start to reframe from making coments about people being novious drivers as i have over 20 years of race driveing behind myself in speedway driveing tin tops to super sedans.
I think the only NOVIOUS here is you.

Dave, I hope your ready for the salvo of Cruise Missiles.

[Shtstr]

M8 i'm so over do gooders trying to sugar coat these new laws.
This weekend i was asked to take my car to 4 differnt car show. But guess where my car will be all weekend due to the off chance someover zellous cop with take a dislikeing to my car even if i haven't done anything wrong. Yep you guessed it locked in the shed where i know it's safe. Now i for one didn't spend bucket loads of cash to build a car to sit in my shed, i want to be able to drive it down the coast or out on a country road for a cruze and know it will come home with me at the end of the day.
With the new laws the cops can take my car on the spot put it in a impound yard surounded by other cars parked so close they hit it with doors and is out in the weather where joe blogs can get access to it and parts can dissapeer without a trace and i'm left with the bill and it's tuff luck for me as i have to prove i did nothing wrong and that the cop was just being an arsehole and didn't like my car on the asumtion that i might do something.
Anyone who thinks the new rule are fair is 1 a do gooder 2 a cop or 3 a polli

[S pack]

one reason why all this whinging about the hoon laws isnt doing any of you any good, government might take an even closer look at the problem and take the lead of many of the european countries.

And yet car manufacturers in Europe are still allowed to perpetuate the horsepower race.
Obvious to see who has the greater political clout.

[xu2308]

The Hoon Laws
What happen to the Greatest Law ever written in this Country, Innocent untill proven Guilty, Hoon Laws have chucked that Law out the Window, the Hoon Laws are NAZI as far as Innocent untill proven Guilty is concerned.

[Shtstr]

couldn't of said it better

[S pack]

The Hoon Laws
What happen to the Greatest Law ever written in this Country, Innocent untill proven Guilty, Hoon Laws have chucked that Law out the Window, the Hoon Laws are NAZI as far as Innocent untill proven Guilty is concerned.

Yes, and Newman wants to take it one step further and do away with the courts discretionary right in sentencing.
This is the Courts Constitutional right and no government can change the Constitution without the consent of the people.

Just read in the Courier Mail this morning that the Newman Govt will introduce proposed new laws to Parliament this month to confiscate all the assets of convicted drug dealers. This would see all assets, whether they were ill gotten gains from from drug dealing or not, confiscated by the state. Judges will not have the discretionary power to alter sentencing due to hardship that may caused to family members if the family home, that may have been inherited for example, to be excluded from forfeiture.
The Queensland Council of civil liberties is making noises already on this issue, however they are suspiciously quiet on the proposed new forfeiture amendments to the Road Safety and Traffic Management Act. Why?

I thought illegal drugs was a much larger and greater risk to our society than the small number of people who choose to deliberately engage in risky and dangerous hoon behavior on our roads.

I can see a constitutional challenge coming (and so there should be) if these proposed amendments pass into law.
Newman needs to realise he can't ride rough shod over the courts.

In saying the above I'm in no way trying to downplay the extremely serious nature of drug related offences or legitamise it or wishing to enter into a debate about drug trafficking.

[S pack]

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Edited by S pack, 17 November 2012 - 12:33 PM.

[Shtstr]

I guess after the hoon laws come in ,the next target will be gun owners. Even tho i have a licance and practice safe storage safe shooting and carie my rifles in hard case locked with trigger locks and bolts removed.
It will be i suppect you are going to shoot someone and there for takeing your fire arm and your licance see you in cort to prove you where on the way to the range and or to a large properity to use your fire arm in the correct manner.....
If the goverment gets their way on hoon laws what is next???
I do agree with some of the hoon laws.
To solve the problem you need to get the driver off the road!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!