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[Shtstr]

action has allready started else where. And no not all cops are arseholes. Some are good blokes and girls. The goverment makes the rules and tell the cops to enforce them and fill these quoters or find youself a new job.
Just like in any other job.

[S pack]

I didn't think these laws were already in place. If they arn't and your that scared you should be driving it every day. If they are already in place my mistake.

I agree with the fact most people posting on here and blaming police officers.....Some of them are idiots sure but they don't make the rules they just inforce them. Some inforce them different to others as well but stop blamming them and blame the people who made the frOcking law in the first place. Not all cops are assholes and the majority of you are acting as if they are.
You all seem to be passionate about this so instead of posting on this thread in a forum that hardly anyone sees get out there and start doing shit about it, im sure someone on here is an artist and can make a good sticker for majority of your cars to display and you don't have to just stop there.
You are all talk and no action!

Hayden

If I were you mate I'd be finding out about the anti hooning laws in NSW, you might be shocked to find they are not that different to the current laws in QLD. From what I have read they can confiscate your number plates on the spot, making it illegal to drive your car.
You might even decide you want to participate in some action yourself. This is not just a QLD problem, it is a national problem.

Cheers
Dave.

[its Paul]

I understand it is a national problem but this thread was for qld. I guess not reading every post put me out of the loop.
I would love to participate in things to prevent it but im not a person to go marching in the street which is mainly why i suggested the stickers. It just seems a lot of you are argueing with each other rather than finding a solution in my opinion.

Hamo, discussion involving passionate things does get heated at times, action starts with conversation, as sidetracked as this thread gets at times its all part of the process.

Paul.

[enderwigginau]

Yes, well, you are the one who is ignoring the fact this whole thread is about the knock-on effect of these rules, not the actual "doing something wrong".

As an example, Special Interest Vehicle rego up here used to entail getting special plates,
- black and white with a alphabetic prefix starting with one of only three letters - N, O or P
- S prefix plates, or
- personalised plates.....

So those who couldn't afford personalised plates, got one of four immediately recognisable plates.............
And the cops would pull these cars over as soon as they saw them in the hope of finding illegal mods or the car not being on a listed club run........
Quite often, if the driver didn't already know the officers stopping him, they would canary the car for anything they could think of, whether it existed or not.......

Just a taste of what an ill thought out rule can cause.

Transport later changed the rules to allow currently registered vehicles moving to SIV to keep the plates they carried so they didn't stand out so much.

This all changed about two years ago after I spent time confirming this was still correct and trying to get the Transport office computers to provide the correct information after certain people wanted to tell me what I had previously confirmed (and done on my own car) was incorrect.
So now we're back to square one, unless you pay extra to "personalise" your std plates, you're stuck with some form of easily recognisable "hoon" plates to make the target easier to spot.

This is what happens when you tar everyone with the same " A Current Affair" brush.......

Grant..

PS. Spent the morning driving around in the cyclone....good thing there were no cops about, as the wind and wet want to shove my big evil ute all over the place........I know how to drive, well, and I know the roads I used......very well......but every metre of road is different......every hour of weather is different......and everything can change in the blink of an eye. And Ms Cameo Gold managed to not hit the tree which fell across the road in front of her tonight....good thing she wasn't driving the Torana......the media would have blamed her for the tree falling.......

[TerrA LX]

Tracy Grimshaw,ACA and Today Tonight are Satans spawn.

Nothing changes for the putrid scum that masquerade as journalists on these shows.

Dont kid yourself that they treat any other subject differently.

They are insidious scum.

Watching their programs will poison your mind and damage our democracy,as can be seen by the way

Avoid these sensationalist f*cks like the plague,do not watch their shows,and encourage all you know to do the same.

Couldn't agree more, I you believe the crap they pedal on these commercial Tv shows then you are a fool, I too have witnessed first hand their evil ways of "securing a storey".

Have you heard the saying, never let the truth get in the way of a good storey???

[S pack]

A car enthusiast should have enough skill not to spin the wheels, even taking off up hill on wet tram tracks.

I personally haven't come across this situation before as we don't have Trams in Brissy, however I assume you have encountered this exact situation where you live or regularly commute and have 1st hand experience of what you write.

[Shtstr]

Well i have one question?
What is the best lube for rubber tyres.

1 water
2 oil and water.

They are both on the road when we drive so it is a lot easyer to have a wheel spin slightly.
If a driver goes on with it and spins the wheels down the road then yes he is an idiot and desurves to get a wrap over the nuckles...
But if the driver gets off the gas and try's to do the right thing by regaining traction how can he be a hoon??????

Edited by lcxu105, 18 November 2012 - 02:54 PM.

[S pack]

The law is the law. Like it or not we all have to obey laws. At the end of the day just like any other matter involving the law, it should always remain discretionary. You can't just across the board have no flexibility to take into consideration the individual circumstances.

Otherwise you just open up to the no common sense law approach that the USA has allowed itself to adopt. You have to be very careful allowing nanny state type laws to come into effect without using what is lacking in today's society "common sense".

It's a little like these bikie rules that they keep saying will rid society of criminals. It will not, and while I do not support law breakers until they are found guilty such restrictions are an infringement on the personal freedoms and liberties that we in Australia hold dear. Guilty by assumption should never ever be a lawful conviction. Its up to a court (the prosecution) to prove you are guilty of breaking the law. If you look at a recent case such as the Lloyd Raney trial, the police named him as the prime and only suspect. Yet in court he was found to be not guilty and the police where heavily criticised for having blindfolds on. That's why we have courts to find guilt or innocence and apply the appropriate penalty if needed.

No person could say they approve or justify hoon behaviour, but equally you can't (in the heat of the moment) have one person being judge jury and executioner. Especially if the stakes are high and set in concrete. This must be left to the balanced independent court system to pass its penalty. I think longer suspension and higher fines will do just as much to deter dangerous hoon behaviour. Crushing cars imo just seems like an idea brought up by non car lovers who put every car enthusiast into the dangerous to society bracket.