Probably not as much as you obviously seem to, i'm just a dumb-ass blue collar worker. But i assume goverment is run along similar lines to almost any buisness, something i have been fortunate enough to have been educated in during the course of past employment, including the cost down to the last dollar in actually running that particular buisness on a daily basis. One thing i learned was we didn't try to shaft our customers to bost profits, that isn't good for buisness, we looked at other avenues open to us such as saving on operating costs by better management of consumables etc.Do you understand how governments budget? If revenue from one stream dries up they source that revenue from elsewhere or reduce services in some areas. If there proves to be too many law abiding citizens not racking up speeding and hooning fines, then the revenue will be sought from somewhere else, perhaps more tax on some consumer goods, petrol etc, or at the federal level more business and personal income tax.
One thing you can bet on, their salaries and retirement benefits will be maintained regardless of who is in power.
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So anyway, back to the topic posted...........
This article in the Sunshine Coast Daily is pretty much a rehash of other news paper articles but at least the young bloke the interviewed had a brain. Good on you Sunshine Coast Daily
http://www.sunshinec...-hoons/1582029/
Comments from the same article are the usual hoo haa however this comment was interesting and if true is a worry as it pretty much highlights what sort of authorities we may potentially deal with.
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My son has a nice normal car, nothing extravagant and he was sitting at stop sign and watched a policeman do a u turn on a zebra crossing outside a school during school hours. As my son drove through the stop sign the policeman pulled him over and asked my son " why he was looking at him funny " my son said " I guess it was the u turn on the zebra crossing with the school kids around ". The policeman's response " I'm in the cando car I can do anything ". He went over my sons car with a fine tooth comb and lucky for my son found nothing, don't tell me that wasn't targeting!"
This article in the Sunshine Coast Daily is pretty much a rehash of other news paper articles but at least the young bloke the interviewed had a brain. Good on you Sunshine Coast Daily
http://www.sunshinec...-hoons/1582029/
Comments from the same article are the usual hoo haa however this comment was interesting and if true is a worry as it pretty much highlights what sort of authorities we may potentially deal with.
"Bishop from Moodlu 27 days ago Report post
My son has a nice normal car, nothing extravagant and he was sitting at stop sign and watched a policeman do a u turn on a zebra crossing outside a school during school hours. As my son drove through the stop sign the policeman pulled him over and asked my son " why he was looking at him funny " my son said " I guess it was the u turn on the zebra crossing with the school kids around ". The policeman's response " I'm in the cando car I can do anything ". He went over my sons car with a fine tooth comb and lucky for my son found nothing, don't tell me that wasn't targeting!"
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Dont bother mate it appears we are all dumb , childish ect ectProbably not as much as you obviously seem to, i'm just a dumb-ass blue collar worker. But i assume goverment is run along similar lines to almost any buisness, something i have been fortunate enough to have been educated in during the course of past employment, including the cost down to the last dollar in actually running that particular buisness on a daily basis. One thing i learned was we didn't try to shaft our customers to bost profits, that isn't good for buisness, we looked at other avenues open to us such as saving on operating costs by better management of consumables etc.
Just smile and nod
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:25 PM
But i assume goverment is run along similar lines to almost any buisness,
No, there is a fundamental difference. When a private business enjoys profit, that profit is returned to shareholders and/or paid in bonuses to those that run the company. If a government returns a surplus then that is put back into paying debt, or back into services , it isnt divvied up amongst the politicians. They get the same regardless of surplus or deficit.
Can we have an end to this nonsense about pollies inventing hooning fines to pay for their retirements?
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:28 PM
Dont bother mate it appears we are all dumb , childish ect ect
Just smile and nod
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:28 PM
I just stumbled in here, and found this post. If anyone is interested, there has been alot of talk on the Grunt Files Facebook page about this topic.
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um reading some of the uneducated repliesSo anyway, back to the topic posted...........
This article in the Sunshine Coast Daily is pretty much a rehash of other news paper articles but at least the young bloke the interviewed had a brain. Good on you Sunshine Coast Daily
http://www.sunshinec...-hoons/1582029/
Comments from the same article are the usual hoo haa however this comment was interesting and if true is a worry as it pretty much highlights what sort of authorities we may potentially deal with.
"Bishop from Moodlu 27 days ago Report post
My son has a nice normal car, nothing extravagant and he was sitting at stop sign and watched a policeman do a u turn on a zebra crossing outside a school during school hours. As my son drove through the stop sign the policeman pulled him over and asked my son " why he was looking at him funny " my son said " I guess it was the u turn on the zebra crossing with the school kids around ". The policeman's response " I'm in the cando car I can do anything ". He went over my sons car with a fine tooth comb and lucky for my son found nothing, don't tell me that wasn't targeting!"
i'd say the propaganda machine in qld is very alive and running...and i hate to say doing a splendid job
gees so when do the laws come national?
where are the aftermarket suppliers?
why are they not voicing a option?
this is thier livelihood in jeopardy...not to mention our hobby
if this "works" where does it stop?
crossing the road against the lights while walking .... that's hooning sorry bud i'll have your car for 3 months...
these are the questions we and others need to ask
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Agreed. We had a rally earlier on in the year here in Sydney surrounding changes to the VSSC at which the NSW roads minister Duncan Gat attended, perhaps something like that is needed.
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Read a post basicly blaming younger drivers so im gonna reply by saying majority of young drivers taught correctly by adults or a proper driving instuctor have more frOcking idea of the road rules then half of the elder people do.
We may break the speed limit a bit more than older people but if you didn't when you were younger you obviously had a shit life as a kid. Don't start blaming things on us when you did the same.
I would say if elder people resat the driving test, written and in car you would fail it, a lot has changed since you got your drivers license.
thanks.
We may break the speed limit a bit more than older people but if you didn't when you were younger you obviously had a shit life as a kid. Don't start blaming things on us when you did the same.
I would say if elder people resat the driving test, written and in car you would fail it, a lot has changed since you got your drivers license.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:04 PM
No matter what you do by filming the unmarked car that is brakeing the law by displaying L plates or patrol car will help you. You will still be fined.. By the way the only fim footage allowed to be use in court is, That can not be altered in any way as it is encripted and by a third party not found to have any bias to each party involved..
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They get the same regardless of surplus or deficit.
How, wisend sir, do you explain gillard upping her yearly salary by more than the average australians total income, after just bringing in a new tax, and just after her previous partner in crime put the country into a massive debt?
Cheers.
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So anyway, back to the topic posted...........
This article in the Sunshine Coast Daily is pretty much a rehash of other news paper articles but at least the young bloke the interviewed had a brain. Good on you Sunshine Coast Daily
http://www.sunshinec...-hoons/1582029/
Comments from the same article are the usual hoo haa however this comment was interesting and if true is a worry as it pretty much highlights what sort of authorities we may potentially deal with.
"Bishop from Moodlu 27 days ago Report post
My son has a nice normal car, nothing extravagant and he was sitting at stop sign and watched a policeman do a u turn on a zebra crossing outside a school during school hours. As my son drove through the stop sign the policeman pulled him over and asked my son " why he was looking at him funny " my son said " I guess it was the u turn on the zebra crossing with the school kids around ". The policeman's response " I'm in the cando car I can do anything ". He went over my sons car with a fine tooth comb and lucky for my son found nothing, don't tell me that wasn't targeting!"
I like this one to.
"The people get the government they deserve.
The usual pathetic unthinking 'get tough on' (every damn thing) that the moronic government continues from the Bligh nightmare indicates the above statement is well and truly right.
Pathetic unthinking government for pathetic unthinking sheeple.
Have you ever thought of looking at causes instead of symptoms??
Of course not.
One day somebody may see the link between the nanny state and the depression that sees suicides rising all the time and half the population being on some sort of happy pills.
From Noosa to the border is one long stretch of zombies, being treated like zombies and now so zombified that to not 'do exactly as instructed' makes you a hoon, a danger and deserving of the 'full strength' of moronic laws.
Just like most posters here want it, apparently.
You make me quite ill! No doubt reciprocated, but I'm real glad I'm not like you, sheeple.
The road carnage is a myth. Mile for mile the road toll's never been lower. Accept that life has risks and stop making outlaws out of essentially innocent people.
Outlaws will bite back!!!"
But your right, a lot of frOcking stupid comments in there
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How, wisend sir, do you explain gillard upping her yearly salary by more than the average australians total income, after just bringing in a new tax, and just after her previous partner in crime put the country into a massive debt?
Cheers.
so you have the proof in your own words, the country is in debt and the politicians award themselves a pay rise, there is no link between politicans pay and whether the country is in surplus or debt.
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It seems common knowledge the PM awarded herself a payrise and the country is in debt?
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It seems common knowledge the PM awarded herself a payrise and the country is in debt?
another own goal?
here's how politicans get themselves payrises:http://www.smh.com.a...1215-1ovvs.html, its irrelevant to them whether there is a surplus or debt.
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I still fail to see how more than the 3% there supposed to get is justified?
Just after bringing in a new tax that will raise a lot of revenue but do nothing else?
Also, answer to my previous statements before you continue
Cheers.
Just after bringing in a new tax that will raise a lot of revenue but do nothing else?
Also, answer to my previous statements before you continue
Cheers.
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I still fail to see how more than the 3% there supposed to get is justified?
Just after bringing in a new tax that will raise a lot of revenue but do nothing else?
Also, answer to my previous statements before you continue
Cheers.
whether you or I think their pay rise is justified or not is irrelevant to the ridiculous claim that the hoon laws, carbon tax, teeny pop tax(whatever else you dont like) were brought into specifically to pay for them. Respond to your previous statements? I have, but it seems you are hell bent on the conspiracy theories, perhaps we can chat about whether there was a moon landing as well
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I would like to discuss the moon landing some day with you. I was more referring to the one you conveniently missed, although you seem to miss anything, regarding no car ever being fitted with a factory rollcage
Cheers.
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Why should he bother, i've given examples of how the law isn't always right & innocent people can still find themselves wrongly prosecuted, even more so likely under new laws, but is it possible you believe the law & it's enforcement bodies are beyond reproach & are never in the wrong?
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, regarding no car ever being fitted with a factory rollcage
the suspense is killing me, please tell which car was manufactured here with a roll cage. Are you also going to tell me it is now illegal to drive it on NSW roads or in which ever state has banned them for road use?
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:31 PM
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the suspense is killing me, please tell which car was manufactured here with a roll cage. Are you also going to tell me it is now illegal to drive it on NSW roads or in which ever state has banned them for road use?
There have been a few, AFAIK all are still legal for road use in all states. Nissan GTIR is a prime example.
That is irrelevant, the point is you stated that NO CAR WAS EVER MANUFACTURED WITH A ROLL CAGE. This was incorrect. This means your not always right.
Cheers.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:47 PM
Volvo car bodies are built around a roll cage aren't they???
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