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[warrenm]

I've got some questions for the painters.
I've been reading other posts about using 2K primers & Epotec 408 seems to be in common use, but I can't get this without ordering it, & waiting several days for delivery.
I can get HiChem products locally, is the "2K Epoxy Primer" the same sort of product?
Can all body fillers be used over these primers as I have a nearly full tin of "Super Bog"?
I intend to use an Acrylic colour coat & the info sheet for the Epotec 408 says that it isn't suitable under acrylics.
After seeing how dirtbag used 2k around the door openings etc. can this process be used over areas that have already been primed with acrylic primer surfacer & spray putty, as I don't really want to rub it back again.

Edited by warrenm, 29 November 2012 - 08:53 AM.

[TerrA LX]

One question for you, can your hi chem supplier answer your questions?
Can you find a local, supplier of products who can?
This will help your selection alot if you have a good honest dealer you can talk to.

To answer your question honestly (and my opinion is more of an amateur than a pro) if you want a top quality finish and you don't know what you are doing (no offence) then you are really better off sticking with the one system and the one brand and following their instructions (and MSDS) to the letter.

This is one reason why when you take a half baked job into a pro to finish they usually want to strip it back and start again.

[warrenm]

Thanks for your input. Looks like this project will stay all acrylic, next project I'll use the 2k primer setup.
Thanks Mike I knew someone had given a heap of info but couldn't remember who.
The local supplier is a spare parts shop, with limited knowledge that is mainly the info from the product sheets.

[71xu1]

A good product for your application is the dulux autospeed 488-s0014 2k epoxy primer. I will post up the data sheet when I get a chance. Will go over bare metal, seals acrylic, can be bogged over. Rubs mint good stuff. As with any 2k product make sure u adhere to correct OHS.

[71xu1]

Sorry Bomber I dont get what you mean in the first sentence.

Cheers Dave

[71xu1]

Cool Bomber thats my understanding of epoxy and what I have done with no problems. A mate of mine who was a paint rep suggested I try it. I found the autospeed a joy to use and so far seems to be holding out quite well over the acrylic and older repairs.

cheers Dave

[TerrA LX]

I like the sound of the dulux autospeed.

[71xu1]

I will try and post up the teck data sheet for it but yeah real enjoyable product can even be rubbed dry with 120/180 on the speedfile to flatten slight ripples out, crispen swage lines up a bit and to pick up lows it does this without too much clogging of the abrasives. It,s not really designed to fill but it also does fill quite well. Steps I use take off any crazed or flaking paint, rub whole car over with ecenentric sander with 120 grit dry, autospeed 2 coats, bog repairs recoat 2 coats autospeed rub 320 wet some will argue but I like to rub wet to keep the dust down, 3 coats of acrylic primer wet rub 600grit and finally colour.

Cheers Dave

Edited by 71xu1, 30 November 2012 - 06:34 PM.

[71xu1]

 488S0014 AutoSpeed 2K Epoxy Primer.pdf   95.08K   52 downloadsAutospeed info sheet.

[warrenm]

Thanks again. The Dulux product looks like a good thing.