Steady on whats Afganistan got to do with cars? I ve seen their attention to detail and to the muscle car scene . It was merely a suggestion to look at what they do.Lol.... You serious? Look to the americans for confirmation. Lol, americans are frOckin idiots..... Agree with them or they invade your country.... And we have oir own people over aiding their idiocy? If your brother/sister/friend was killed in afhganistan, would you not sit there and ask youreself, WHY?......
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:56 PM
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this thread has gone down hill real fast
1 i have a lj gtr 9-73 cyan blue here it has had a 80s shut and cut and to me its not worth the same money has joe blows cur that has not had a s/c, but if i was to hide that and sell it to you or joe blow for that good money everyone would call me a bodgy cut....
2 simple question if you had the choice of to cars the same everything but one had a s/c what one would you buy.
3 a re- birthed car is when you take the inner guards and tags a replace them to another shell a re-shelled car is the same thing, and what tim [rim] is saying if you re-place youir quarters roof, door, guards, right inner guard boot floor front floor, and not touch your inner guard and numbers you are re skinning a car and doing the resto not cutting corners and moving everything over to another car.
4 but if you are doing all the above for yourself to injoy GO HARD but if your doing it to rob someone BAD DOGGY.
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1 i have a lj gtr 9-73 cyan blue here it has had a 80s shut and cut and to me its not worth the same money has joe blows cur that has not had a s/c, but if i was to hide that and sell it to you or joe blow for that good money everyone would call me a bodgy cut....
2 simple question if you had the choice of to cars the same everything but one had a s/c what one would you buy.
3 a re- birthed car is when you take the inner guards and tags a replace them to another shell a re-shelled car is the same thing, and what tim [rim] is saying if you re-place youir quarters roof, door, guards, right inner guard boot floor front floor, and not touch your inner guard and numbers you are re skinning a car and doing the resto not cutting corners and moving everything over to another car.
4 but if you are doing all the above for yourself to injoy GO HARD but if your doing it to rob someone BAD DOGGY.
cheers gong
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:43 PM
I likeThis is exactly why I started th GTR & XU1registers on here.
You are much safer including your confirmed numbers and vehicles on one of these lists, that keeping it all secret.
(FYI, the above has been agreed as correct by a number of Police in the game....)
No one can steal your numbers as they are here for all to see, and it is confirmed proof that the car exists (and you have it....)
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As soon as you start messing with doing a cut and shut or removing the left hand chassis rail/skirt I think it throws serious doubt on the car in question, good repair illegal or not doesnt matter. l could agree to the left chassis rail etc being removed etc if it was a well documented car ie one that was on a register before the big hit that neccesitated the rail etc being replaced.
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So whats mine then? I had to replace the front half of the LH inner guard due to smash/rust.. I didnt touch the numbered area.. It is well documented and I think all you regular guys know my car due to my build forum.. Correct?
Its still an XU-1.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:48 PM
Mike your right its still an xu1 dont matter what anybody says
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Mike your right its still an xu1 dont matter what anybody says
I like you Gene....
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:06 PM
As far as I am concerned still an XU1 as it is documented and you havent done anything dodgy with the skirt numbers, they still exist connected to the firewall with original welds etc.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:17 PM
I would say its like mine , a restored XU1 .
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:20 PM
What if Mike had to replace the L/H inner guard due to damage. The cars still a XU1. Is it not?
There are lots of other indicators from the firewall back that are XU1 specific
There are lots of other indicators from the firewall back that are XU1 specific
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 09:37 PM
i would then say , it's not like mine .
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:03 PM
just woundering, if Brocky had put his 72 XU-1 into a wall on the saturday and they replaced the front end, and he won Bathurst on sunday in the same car (different front end), was it still an Xu-1 ?
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:04 PM
To me,its only original if its never been touched,aside from basic maintenance.
Otherwise its a resto,a semi-resto or a rebody.
Do tell what you suggest is basic maintenance.....for a car made around 40 years ago.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:04 PM
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:14 PM
It's a race car.....just woundering, if Brocky had put his 72 XU-1 into a wall on the saturday and they replaced the front end, and he won Bathurst on sunday in the same car (different front end), was it still an Xu-1 ?
There is a difference.
All accidents and repairs are (meant to be) recorded in the log book.
Fully documented.
And racing injuries are part of mystique of a racecar - and a way of correctly identifying the real car.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:15 PM
Do tell what you suggest is basic maintenance.....for a car made around 40 years ago.
No panel or paintwork.
No retrimming
Plugs,filters,leads,clutch,maybe a waterpump or a harmonic balancer.
If the engine has been opened and painted that would be a minus,but a headgasket I could deal with if it was just replaced and nothing else was done.
Thats what original is.
Untouched.
A very hard thing to find which I believe would make a car of this type so much more valuable than one that has been touched up for whatever reason over the years.
I think the term "Original" is way overused.
This is not meant as a slur against any of the fine restos going around,as I like a nice resto as much as the next guy,but origional means original.
Just because they are almost impossible to find does not change the meaning of the term.
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Skap to me it;s an Xu1, but the numbers may say otherwise.. it's more the fact that everyone knows what is was, even if the front was of a torana s, we all know it was a 9 mth 72 XU-1.... but at what point does a genuine Xu-1 sease to be one ? when it does'nt have a JP block? when more than 30% of the car has been replaced? i'm not making a statement, just asking............
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:34 PM
What if Mike had to replace the L/H inner guard due to damage. The cars still a XU1. Is it not?
There are lots of other indicators from the firewall back that are XU1 specific
The way I see it If it were well documented it is still an XU1 if not in my opinion it would have a cloud of doubt over it which would dictate a different price.
Cheers Dave
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:37 PM
A very hard thing to find which I believe would make a car of this type so much more valuable than one that has been touched up for whatever reason over the years.
Sounds like you are talking museum piece rather than original.
I'd imagine that there would be SFA 40 year old cars that would be to that standard.
Anyway I will agree to disagree .....(btw, does that mean that my tattoo make me less original than I was?)
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Only if it was put on an aftermarket arm............. lolSounds like you are talking museum piece rather than original.
I'd imagine that there would be SFA 40 year old cars that would be to that standard.
Anyway I will agree to disagree .....(btw, does that mean that my tattoo make me less original than I was?)
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:45 PM
Sounds like you are talking museum piece rather than original.
I'd imagine that there would be SFA 40 year old cars that would be to that standard.
Anyway I will agree to disagree .....(btw, does that mean that my tattoo make me less original than I was?)
Well i know of one xu1 that hasnt been molested at all in 40 years
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I have said it before and I will say it again
My car is what ever I say it is.. and if anyone wants to say different.. they can get F&*&^@d and mind their own damm business, and I would be more then happy tell them where to go and give them directions on how to get there.
Now if I were breaking the law with how I describe my car then that is a different story...
In the mean time it was a A9X tribute car built by me to be the car I wished Holden had made, better interior, suspension and quite a bit faster then the standard A9X
My car is what ever I say it is.. and if anyone wants to say different.. they can get F&*&^@d and mind their own damm business, and I would be more then happy tell them where to go and give them directions on how to get there.
Now if I were breaking the law with how I describe my car then that is a different story...
In the mean time it was a A9X tribute car built by me to be the car I wished Holden had made, better interior, suspension and quite a bit faster then the standard A9X
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:51 PM
Hi Ice
My hat goes of to anyone that has a untouched car, and if the truth be know there are probably some untouched cars sitting in some farmers paddock rusting away because they are untouched.
Also, suggesting that otherwise is nothing but "molested" might just be a tad strong and may even be seen as a little insulting to those out there that are trying to preserve the make for the love of it.
I guess at the end of the day, to my way of thinking, as long as the car has not just been attached to a body number cut out and had the three plates (two for the early ones) riveted it cant be anything else as what came down the production line.
Whilst discussion is good and every one is entitled to an opinion, I just see a lot of comments needlessly degrading the fantastic work that the guys are doing to keep 40 year old cars alive and representative of the era.
Cheers
My hat goes of to anyone that has a untouched car, and if the truth be know there are probably some untouched cars sitting in some farmers paddock rusting away because they are untouched.
Also, suggesting that otherwise is nothing but "molested" might just be a tad strong and may even be seen as a little insulting to those out there that are trying to preserve the make for the love of it.
I guess at the end of the day, to my way of thinking, as long as the car has not just been attached to a body number cut out and had the three plates (two for the early ones) riveted it cant be anything else as what came down the production line.
Whilst discussion is good and every one is entitled to an opinion, I just see a lot of comments needlessly degrading the fantastic work that the guys are doing to keep 40 year old cars alive and representative of the era.
Cheers
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:57 PM
Hi Ice
My hat goes of to anyone that has a untouched car, and if the truth be know there are probably some untouched cars sitting in some farmers paddock rusting away because they are untouched.
Also, suggesting that otherwise is nothing but "molested" might just be a tad strong and may even be seen as a little insulting to those out there that are trying to preserve the make for the love of it.
I guess at the end of the day, to my way of thinking, as long as the car has not just been attached to a body number cut out and had the three plates (two for the early ones) riveted it cant be anything else as what came down the production line.
Whilst discussion is good and every one is entitled to an opinion, I just see a lot of comments needlessly degrading the fantastic work that the guys are doing to keep 40 year old cars alive and representative of the era.
Cheers
Im looking at an xu1 on monday that has been in the same family for 30 plus years and suppose to be in pristine condition and no im not buying it
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