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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:56 PM

Hi All,
Let's list a part or parts of a six that are strong for the Bottom end:-

I name one part and can someone tell us how much it costs as I need one too:-

A Steel Crank for a 202ci

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:14 AM

So who can you recommend to build a 202
I'm a mechanic by trade but haven't gone into high performance engines and pushing these engines to the limit isn't something I want to experiment with in my own car lol It'll cost more $$ in the long run experimenting

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:36 AM

So who can you recommend to build a 202
I'm a mechanic by trade but haven't gone into high performance engines and pushing these engines to the limit isn't something I want to experiment with in my own car lol It'll cost more $$ in the long run experimenting


Hi sjp67m,
I would recommend oldjohnno and Bomber Watson or you can put the goodies together yourself. Dave I

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:07 AM

So who can you recommend to build a 202
I'm a mechanic by trade but haven't gone into high performance engines and pushing these engines to the limit isn't something I want to experiment with in my own car lol It'll cost more $$ in the long run experimenting


G'day mate , looks like you have decided to do a 202 , If you are interested I can supply a proven reliable combination for you to assemble.The cost will depend on , the parts you have now,the parts you would like to use ,your budget and the end result you are after. regards,Mick

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:38 AM

G'day mate , looks like you have decided to do a 202 , If you are interested I can supply a proven reliable combination for you to assemble.The cost will depend on , the parts you have now,the parts you would like to use ,your budget and the end result you are after. regards,Mick


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G'day mate , looks like you have decided to do a 202 , If you are interested I can supply a proven reliable combination for you to assemble.The cost will depend on , the parts you have now,the parts you would like to use ,your budget and the end result you are after. regards,Mick


I'll pm you

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 12:04 PM

Hi all,
looks like we do not need a steel crank as in this 2006 thread talks about them:-
http://www.gmh-toran...2-steel-cranks/

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

Some people prefer the steel crank as an insurance item, or if they prefer a different counterweight size or shape. The only cast 202 crank I ever killed was due to an oil pump failure.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

Hi Vick,
Agreed, I have only damaged the Big Ends with all the thrashing the poor 202 crank got.
Was thinking at 14:1 compression, I mite need a Steel Crank. Dave I

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

This is your engine. If you would be happier with a steel crank in the thing, then get one. No point putting a cast crank in and continually worrying about the engine letting go.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

Yep,
I would like 1000 miles out of it - not just blow up. Dave I

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:23 PM

This combo looks appealing also ;) just have to get the underside finished and take it from there....

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:29 PM

Hi sjp67m,
It is a lot of money to throw at something that will wear out depending on use.
My guess, you would see what it can do. Dave I

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:38 PM

HEAD IS A 12 PORT WHICH IS PORTED PROFESSIONALLY ON OUR SF600E

AWESOME ACCELERATION AND REAL GOOD TORQUE APPROX 305 HP


Solid HP claim. Head & intake must be moving some serious CFM for a 12 port.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:20 PM

14 k for a red motor, tell him he's dreamin.


The poster here(YEL327) i think, recommending a VN/S donor car makes the most sense, taking the whole picture into accnt. Ebay the dreggs of the commo, and you have virtually free running gear.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:20 PM

14 k for a red motor, tell him he's dreamin.


The poster here(YEL327) i think, recommending a VN/S donor car makes the most sense, taking the whole picture into accnt. Ebay the dreggs of the commo, and you have virtually free running gear.

good luck


Everyone goes throws a 350 chev in its cheap and I would like to keep it fairly original (keep it a 6cyl that is)
I mean for $$ value the 350 is good value but it seems like every other car on eBay !

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:08 PM

Everyone goes throws a 350 chev in its cheap and I would like to keep it fairly original (keep it a 6cyl that is)
I mean for $$ value the 350 is good value but it seems like every other car on eBay !


Yep fair call, its your car.

Would be good if you could build its orig motor for resale purpose.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:11 PM

There are a lot cheaper ways to build 305 HP.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

there are a lot of tricks to keep a red or blue black bottom end together not expesive just alot of time and cleanliness I rev my engines hard turboed or normanly asperated ex speedway racer we reve them hard and for a long time the longest was a 100 lapper in Rochampton 7800rpm 100 laps no worries 1/4 mile circle. nothing special, I worked for the Brock shop at the time and info flowed freely around the shop.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

Well it cost me 5k thats with stock bottom end but all the goodies start from there starfire rods big cam good bearings pushrods the list goes on and on with my triples it will rev to 74 7500 rpm all long
cant beat that sound of a strong 202

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:29 AM

there are a lot of tricks to keep a red or blue black bottom end together not expesive just alot of time and cleanliness


Do tell...

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:59 AM

Do tell...


Bomber's all over it.... just dont start it up :stirpot:

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

lol, lots of talk in here

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:16 PM
In just trying to decide what motor to go for in my hatch I know it's cheap to get a 350 crate motor
But how much would it cost to build a decent 202 ?
Obviosly with more power then standard but remember its a daily driver so it has to be within a reasonable budget :/

Hi sjp67m
If you add up the cost of the conversion to a V8 ( engine, carby,electrics, engine mounts, radiator, gearbox, tail shaft / diff, exhaust system etc) you could build a nice 202..
As Tryhard said you don't need lotsa cash to make a 202 go hard and be reliable.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:06 PM

A 300 HP 308 will suck less juice than a 300 HP 202.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:15 PM

But theres a wayyyyyyy bigger sense of achievement getting more than 1 1/2 horsepower per cube in a 6 than it is to only just reach 1 horsepower with a 308
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