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Youngy's LX Hatch
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 02:31 AM
Yeah I think I will be painting it black, mainly to keep attention away...
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:48 PM
Some work over the past week.
So the VP V6 has been removed.
I have completed the Lower bearing mod to the steering shaft including fitting a noathelene coupling and fully recoed UC (solid mount) steering rack.
All fitted up with DIY wheel alignment lol, steering feels much more direct can't wait to drive now
Also note too all hang onto the g clamp when removing the cotterpins lol. I was swinging off the G clamp with an open ender spanner and when the Cotter pin released the g clamp sprung off and got me lol.
Then as usual the VP sump that was meant to bolt straight on didn't. 3 bolt holes were different, 2 of the ARP main studs were hitting so I heated and stretched some of the metal. Also the dipstick was in a different location in the block so a new dipstick had to be fabricated and welded to the sump (Thanks to Joe from Profab for his help at short notice)
~8Hours of work later it was on.
Today I got out all the bolt on's and made sure it was all going to fit, after some small modifications everything fitted up nice.
L67 to torana wiring is being installed this weekend
Ryan
So the VP V6 has been removed.
I have completed the Lower bearing mod to the steering shaft including fitting a noathelene coupling and fully recoed UC (solid mount) steering rack.
All fitted up with DIY wheel alignment lol, steering feels much more direct can't wait to drive now
Also note too all hang onto the g clamp when removing the cotterpins lol. I was swinging off the G clamp with an open ender spanner and when the Cotter pin released the g clamp sprung off and got me lol.
Then as usual the VP sump that was meant to bolt straight on didn't. 3 bolt holes were different, 2 of the ARP main studs were hitting so I heated and stretched some of the metal. Also the dipstick was in a different location in the block so a new dipstick had to be fabricated and welded to the sump (Thanks to Joe from Profab for his help at short notice)
~8Hours of work later it was on.
Today I got out all the bolt on's and made sure it was all going to fit, after some small modifications everything fitted up nice.
L67 to torana wiring is being installed this weekend
Ryan
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:18 PM
Nice work Ryan, looks the goods mate, what sort of power are you hoping for ?
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:51 PM
Hoping for 250rwkw (max) happy with 240rwkw on 98 if I go for E85 it should make close to 265-270rwkw. Which is getting close to 500Hp at the flywheel.
At this stage i'm going for 98 tune for availability and so I can look after the T5 for a while lol.
I have setup the fuel system to cope with E85 just availability at the moment. Heathcoat Caltex is the closest (40mins).
Ryan
At this stage i'm going for 98 tune for availability and so I can look after the T5 for a while lol.
I have setup the fuel system to cope with E85 just availability at the moment. Heathcoat Caltex is the closest (40mins).
Ryan
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 05:30 PM
that looks really nice Ryan. 240 @ the wheels with a blown 6 ??? what have i been missing??? i got 242 @ the tread in my old VNSS manual and it coat me a shipload of coin too. i cant wait to see this thing turn a tyre,
keep up the good work mate
keep up the good work mate
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:59 PM
Cheers lee. Yeah i think it will shock alot of people, apparantly the torque output is even better.
The bolt ons arent that cheap but still costs less than a worked 304 from the sums i did.
Will be a while before i get it on the full tune though want to do at least 2000km running it in.
Ryan
The bolt ons arent that cheap but still costs less than a worked 304 from the sums i did.
Will be a while before i get it on the full tune though want to do at least 2000km running it in.
Ryan
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 07:23 PM
Cheers lee. Yeah i think it will shock alot of people, apparantly the torque output is even better.
The bolt ons arent that cheap but still costs less than a worked 304 from the sums i did.
Will be a while before i get it on the full tune though want to do at least 2000km running it in.
Ryan
OH YEAH RYAN HEY CHARGER
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 07:57 PM
The engine looks impressive.
The only problem I see is the nolathane rag coupler. Nolathane is not really suitable for this job and definitely does not like heat. There have been quite a few posts regarding nolathane coupler failure.
The rubber coupler is far superior, you can buy reproduction couplers for rare spares. Another alternative is to use a second uni however this could result steering column vibration and may not be technically legal.
The only problem I see is the nolathane rag coupler. Nolathane is not really suitable for this job and definitely does not like heat. There have been quite a few posts regarding nolathane coupler failure.
The rubber coupler is far superior, you can buy reproduction couplers for rare spares. Another alternative is to use a second uni however this could result steering column vibration and may not be technically legal.
Edited by ls2lxhatch, 09 July 2011 - 08:03 PM.
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 08:29 PM
Good effort and nice to see someone looking outside the usual mods
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 08:54 PM
Yeah ls2lxhatch. I was talking to another forum member the other day about it, he also suggested not to run one ill dosome further research before the motor goes in.
Ryan
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Edited by youngy_11, 09 July 2011 - 08:55 PM.
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Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:55 AM
I'm with ls2lxHatch on that. Get rid of it.
cheers
Mark
cheers
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:04 AM
Holes have been made for inter cooler piping.
I enlarged the passenger side to allow more air to be fed into the pod filter. Which will be covered similar to a MACE CAI.
I have also made a trial throttle cable bracket. Hopefully there will be enough firewall clearance, if not I have some other plans. Once installed I will have to get the cable shortened to suit. Im happy with the outcome as the throttle cable won't be seen.
Hard to see with phones camera
Ryan
I enlarged the passenger side to allow more air to be fed into the pod filter. Which will be covered similar to a MACE CAI.
I have also made a trial throttle cable bracket. Hopefully there will be enough firewall clearance, if not I have some other plans. Once installed I will have to get the cable shortened to suit. Im happy with the outcome as the throttle cable won't be seen.
Hard to see with phones camera
Ryan
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:56 PM
Jeez you've worked fast on this project. Its looking good.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 10:56 PM
Yeah i have been ripping into it while i have been off work for the past 3 weeks. 6 hours a day roughly. I want to get the motor trial fitted and extractors made by this time next week. Then it will come out so that the extraxtors can be coated.
Ryan
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 09:13 PM
I have had some set backs with the project, which will end up delaying it by ~3 weeks.
As you can see the BYE inter-cooler plate is not exactly designed for a torana.
So the motor has been moved forward 10mm, by modifying the engine plates that attach to the standard torana 6cyl engine mounts.
As expected I still couldn't fit the BYE plate.
So the heater outlet on the firewall were cut down to 1" long. I will be using short pieces of plain black hose to come out of the pipes and then take a sharp bend into the heater tap and straight 5/8" male to male barb, this all will be pretty much hidden. From there I will go with the -12 braided hose to the heater outlets on the motor which will have -12 weldon fittings with 90 degree bends fitted.
I have moved the BYE inlet in 35mm to clear the wiper motor and also help with the heater pipes. Next week some time I will be re resining and carbon fibering.
I will have 10mm clearance from the silicon hose to wiper motor. The blue 3/8 NPT -10an fitting will be replaced with a 90 degree fitting of the same specs. This is for the vacuum return from the catch can, to make it legal.
Also had to remove some of the firewall lip for the throttle body U bend unfortunately.
Bonnet clearance will be the next issue, hopefully it will be right. If not I plan to modify the bonnet rib, if not cut hole and maybe fit A9X scoop, if not have the blower sticking out the bonnet haha
Ryan
As you can see the BYE inter-cooler plate is not exactly designed for a torana.
So the motor has been moved forward 10mm, by modifying the engine plates that attach to the standard torana 6cyl engine mounts.
As expected I still couldn't fit the BYE plate.
So the heater outlet on the firewall were cut down to 1" long. I will be using short pieces of plain black hose to come out of the pipes and then take a sharp bend into the heater tap and straight 5/8" male to male barb, this all will be pretty much hidden. From there I will go with the -12 braided hose to the heater outlets on the motor which will have -12 weldon fittings with 90 degree bends fitted.
I have moved the BYE inlet in 35mm to clear the wiper motor and also help with the heater pipes. Next week some time I will be re resining and carbon fibering.
I will have 10mm clearance from the silicon hose to wiper motor. The blue 3/8 NPT -10an fitting will be replaced with a 90 degree fitting of the same specs. This is for the vacuum return from the catch can, to make it legal.
Also had to remove some of the firewall lip for the throttle body U bend unfortunately.
Bonnet clearance will be the next issue, hopefully it will be right. If not I plan to modify the bonnet rib, if not cut hole and maybe fit A9X scoop, if not have the blower sticking out the bonnet haha
Ryan
Edited by youngy_11, 24 July 2011 - 09:14 PM.
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Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:31 AM
very impressive cant wait till next years drag day you will no doubt have a lot of us v8 boys scratching our heads.you should be very proud of yourself.
can your diff handle the extra torque?
best i keep that spare vn t5 aside for you i think. lol
and make your coupler choice before the engine goes back in. i dont see you having much play room when its all back in.
look forward to seeing and hearing.
can your diff handle the extra torque?
best i keep that spare vn t5 aside for you i think. lol
and make your coupler choice before the engine goes back in. i dont see you having much play room when its all back in.
look forward to seeing and hearing.
Edited by rob350hatch, 29 July 2011 - 09:34 AM.
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 08:15 PM
Thanks Rob.
Yes the diff should be fine, alot of VL's are running 10s with the same diff.
I will be fitting a LOKKA centre which will help and also keep it legal.
Can't wait to get it on the road. Was planning for T fest, but its not going to happen with some of the unplanned delays.
Also don't want to rush anything.
Ryan
Yes the diff should be fine, alot of VL's are running 10s with the same diff.
I will be fitting a LOKKA centre which will help and also keep it legal.
Can't wait to get it on the road. Was planning for T fest, but its not going to happen with some of the unplanned delays.
Also don't want to rush anything.
Ryan
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 08:28 PM
Thanks Rob.
Yes the diff should be fine, alot of VL's are running 10s with the same diff.
I will be fitting a LOKKA centre which will help and also keep it legal.
Can't wait to get it on the road. Was planning for T fest, but its not going to happen with some of the unplanned delays.
Also don't want to rush anything.
Ryan
Looking good Ryan nice work
Wayne
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:06 PM
The blower snout had to be machined so that the smaller pulley would clear it and is now ready to go on
Engine out so the extractors can be coated.
ECU has been sent away for running in tune, inter cooler plate is being modified and will be ready in a weeks time.
Should be ready to start this time next month.
Ryan
Engine out so the extractors can be coated.
ECU has been sent away for running in tune, inter cooler plate is being modified and will be ready in a weeks time.
Should be ready to start this time next month.
Ryan
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Posted 12 August 2011 - 06:12 PM
Hi Ryan,
you are doing are great job,
hopefully you can have it ready for Toranafest, as i am sure many of us will want to see it and hear it in the flesh
cheers
you are doing are great job,
hopefully you can have it ready for Toranafest, as i am sure many of us will want to see it and hear it in the flesh
cheers
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Posted 13 August 2011 - 04:53 AM
Thanks tony but you are puttint the Big pressure on. Ill see what happens but at this stage im not attending t fest with the car this year. I would rather go next year and have the car fully finished with dyno readouts and 1/4mile times to surprise everyone. Haha
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Posted 13 August 2011 - 09:01 PM
Very impressed with your work Ryan. 
And it's going to be very quick when all sorted out.
Cheers Mick.
And it's going to be very quick when all sorted out.
Cheers Mick.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 10:38 PM
Update.
So I have fitted the clutch and flywheel. The clutch is a custom 10.5" clutch from NPC in QLD. It still has an organic plate and is good for 280rwkw. It is to suit their billet flywheel.
I have picked up the ECU from dick which has the running in tune on it.
I have decided to change the engine mounts and modify the engine plates to standard fit 308 mounts.
I also ordered a set of 10mm Top gun leads
BYE plate has been modified and ready to go on:))
Extractors turned up today after being ceramic coated.
Getting close, hopefully have the engine mounts sorted by this weekend.
Motor in next week
Ryan
So I have fitted the clutch and flywheel. The clutch is a custom 10.5" clutch from NPC in QLD. It still has an organic plate and is good for 280rwkw. It is to suit their billet flywheel.
I have picked up the ECU from dick which has the running in tune on it.
I have decided to change the engine mounts and modify the engine plates to standard fit 308 mounts.
I also ordered a set of 10mm Top gun leads
BYE plate has been modified and ready to go on:))
Extractors turned up today after being ceramic coated.
Getting close, hopefully have the engine mounts sorted by this weekend.
Motor in next week
Ryan
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Posted 24 August 2011 - 12:09 AM
Looking good Ryan, how do u go fir bonnet clearance? I've got the mace 25mm spacer plate n my blower pulley is bloody close to the bonnet. Gd to c another torana owner thinking outside the box, I love hunting v8s haha
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