Jump to content


Plastic welding/repairing rear spoiler


  • Please log in to reply
27 replies to this topic

#1 _Red One_

_Red One_
  • Guests

Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:25 PM

Does anyone know of an actual material name I could use to weld/fill a rather large crack in my original plastic rear SLR spoiler? It seems that over the years it has been stressed and cracked but it looks all nice and straight and sits well on the boot as it is. I even had trouble closing the gap when sussing it out on the car and am afraid that if I do close it up and glass it to keep it together it will just do it again somewhere else.
Anyone repaired one and got a good technique?
Cheers,
Brad

#2 Ice

Ice

    Cool

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,204 posts
  • Name:Gene
  • Location:Galaxy's away from Ipswich
  • Car:77 HZ Sandman Van
  • Joined: 03-January 07

Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:34 PM

Personally id would get it done by a plastic welder brad mite cost a bit but should be like knew after wards

#3 dattoman

dattoman

    Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

  • Administrators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,487 posts
  • Name:Neil
  • Location:Perth Western Australia
  • Car:LX SS , 76 Cadillac , 3 x dattos
  • Joined: 04-February 07

Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:59 PM

Go see the local panel shop and see if they have access to a plastic welder

 

If not just hang it on the wall and buy a fibreglass replacement



#4 sibhs

sibhs

    Lotsa Posts!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,719 posts
  • Name:Martin
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:LJ Coupe S
  • Joined: 27-July 12

Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:05 PM

Hi Brad,

I've heard of the old soldering iron and cable ties melted into the crack.  Check "YourTube" for other ideas.



#5 _SableMet7/73_

_SableMet7/73_
  • Guests

Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:10 PM

I've heard of the old soldering iron and cable ties melted into the crack.  Check "YourTube" for other ideas.

 

Seen bike fairings done similarly but with a heat/paint stripping gun



#6 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,241 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

Try a bumper bar repairer or a bike restorer.

#7 S pack

S pack

    Scrivet Counter

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,727 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:Luggage Point
  • Car:73 LJ
  • Joined: 25-January 10

Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:37 PM

Not sure what plastic the SLR rear spoiler is made of but ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene) is commonly used to make plastic panels for cars. It is easily welded with a reasonable sized soldering iron and some scrap pieces of ABS to use as filler.

 

If your not confident about doing it yourself then take it to a professional to be repaired.



#8 _Gunmetal LH_

_Gunmetal LH_
  • Guests

Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:34 AM

I found something just recently about ABS plastic- chop some up into tiny bits and add acetone.

 

Apparently it turns into a goo that can be used as a glue which 'eats' into abs and when dried out is just like plastic welding.



#9 S pack

S pack

    Scrivet Counter

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,727 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:Luggage Point
  • Car:73 LJ
  • Joined: 25-January 10

Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:40 AM

Yeah, Methyl Etheyl Ketone (plumbers Pvc priming fluid) will do the same thing, however I think welding with a soldering iron or hot air welder would be 10 times quicker and stronger.



#10 _Gunmetal LH_

_Gunmetal LH_
  • Guests

Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:58 AM

Definately quicker.  Acetone method will take days.



#11 _outer control_

_outer control_
  • Guests

Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:19 AM

The trouble with welding it will eventually crack again and there goes your paint job.

Grind out a trough between cracks and fill with Q-bond i have heard is the answer and you can do it yourself.

Q-bond available from Snap off agents .


Edited by outer control, 09 April 2013 - 03:20 AM.


#12 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Inactive
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:32 AM

They are ABS and they can be plastic welded. I've had them done before, a decent repairer will do a good job. If you wre in Sydney I could recommend someone but try a bike fairing repairer.



#13 _threeblindmice_

_threeblindmice_
  • Guests

Posted 09 April 2013 - 05:23 PM

REDA9X , who is good in Sydney , I need an LC under dash panel joined .



#14 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,241 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:19 PM

There used to be a good bumper/headlight place at seven hills, just over the bridge there, not sure if they are still there now tho sorry.

#15 S pack

S pack

    Scrivet Counter

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,727 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:Luggage Point
  • Car:73 LJ
  • Joined: 25-January 10

Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:05 PM

REDA9X , who is good in Sydney , I need an LC under dash panel joined .

Bruce

I could weld it for you for free with the oxy, but I won't guarantee it will look the same when I'm finished.  :stirpot: 



#16 71xu1

71xu1

    Dave

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,275 posts
  • Location:Western Australia
  • Car:LC GTR XU1
  • Joined: 24-August 06

Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

Get someone who knows how to do it might cost a little extra but will save you in the long run. Welding plastic together with a soldering iron is really only good for small things, even then its dubious if it will hold properly, the soldering iron heat upsets all of the resins in the plastic making it difficult to get a real decent bond.

#17 _Red One_

_Red One_
  • Guests

Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:58 PM

So has anyone repaired such material with fibreglass and resin?

I was thinking using carbon fibre and some West Systems laminating resin but now I have read about Thermoplastic Resin.

All good reading.



#18 71xu1

71xu1

    Dave

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,275 posts
  • Location:Western Australia
  • Car:LC GTR XU1
  • Joined: 24-August 06

Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:48 PM

Not 100% sure but from memory the resin does not adhere too well to the plastic. Best of plastic welding it works 100%



#19 S pack

S pack

    Scrivet Counter

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,727 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:Luggage Point
  • Car:73 LJ
  • Joined: 25-January 10

Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:10 AM

I'm guessing that Brad is trying to fix it himself as the nearest plastic welding expert is hundreds of miles south????

 

I was going to suggest you post a pic to show everyone how big your crack is that needs filling but then I realised that sounds like a strange perverted request so I won't suggest it.  :DOH:


Edited by S pack, 10 April 2013 - 12:20 AM.


#20 REDA9X

REDA9X

    Removed

  • Inactive
  • Pip
  • 0 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:00 AM

I used a company called plasti weld in Bankstown years ago, they did bike fairings.

If you are looking at repairing this yourself, DON'T use fibreglass or resin. I have seen plenty butchered this way. You can buy a plastic filler which is like bog which is a much better option. I did have a contact I bought mine through, I'd have to look back but you can find places on the net.

The best way to do it is buy a proper welding gun, I have one but they are around 6-700 bucks.You can use a soldering iron as well and buy yourself the proper ABS rods to melt into the plastic gap. Another option is the little butanne heat guns you can buy from places like bunnings. When you use them, only use them to blow heat, not a flame. ABS requires around 300degrees to melt.

There are also mobile guys who do this work like the touchupguys. One of the guys here in Sydney is a Torana man and has a touchupguys frachise. In the case of a dash and the grain they make a mold first of the pattern and melt that back into the repair so you can't see it.



#21 TerrA LX

TerrA LX

    Fulcrum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,241 posts
  • Location:Sid 'n' knee
  • Joined: 31-May 06

Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:45 AM

^ that's fantastic news for some.

#22 Ruts

Ruts

    How Fast!?

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,118 posts
  • Location:Bargo, NSW
  • Car:Blown A9X replica, Black SS hatchback, LH SLR5000
  • Joined: 23-December 06

Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:58 PM

I have two original plastic rear SLR5000 spoilers to repair and was also wondering what to use to fix them. While at Sema last year I saw a demonstration of a plastic repair using a product called Plastex. It looks the goods and comes with a instructional video and I will using it to do my plastic repairs. Here's the link:

 

http://www.plastex.net/Home_Page.php



#23 _Red One_

_Red One_
  • Guests

Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:33 PM

Thanks for the info and the link guys. Right,,, no fibreglass or resin. Check.

I was looking at this stuff and have asked a few questions. Apparently it melts at about 60 degrees so I am seeing if they have any higher temp stuff.

http://www.ebay.com....#ht_2384wt_1397

 

Ruts, your link looks promising. I'll have a good read.

 

And yes I am on the opposite side of the country to Sydney or Melbourne so no Mr Fixit up here.



#24 Swarbs

Swarbs

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,671 posts
  • Name:Dave
  • Location:North West WA
  • Car:LX 5000
  • Joined: 18-April 07

Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:02 PM

Brad there is a mob down this way called 2K Plastics

 

I have asked Kipper the owner about this before regarding rear spoilers as i have the original one off the car as well that is cracked near the keyhole

He said he would need to take a look

 

Havn't got round to digging it out as it is 2 stories up in a sea container ATM

 

Not sure on a price but i'm sure he would look after you



#25 Uncle Chop Chop

Uncle Chop Chop

    Grumpy Old Man

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,409 posts
  • Name:John
  • Location:Vic
  • Joined: 19-November 12

Posted 16 April 2013 - 08:30 PM

I repaired a cracked plastic case on my laptop with a 35W soldering iron. It is now dust and water proof, but it doesn't look very pretty. With a bit more time I could improve the look, but you can't see it when it's sitting on my lap. Most bumper bar/ headlight repair places do repairs to a time limit. Keep that in mind.






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users