Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Rusty Lx 4 door rebuild.


  • Please log in to reply
293 replies to this topic

#26 hanra

hanra

    Oh My, Don't you post alot

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,920 posts
  • Name:Brad
  • Location:Farrrrrr North Qld
  • Car:1975 LH SL/R 5000, 1967 Morris Cooper S, E36 BMW, Toyota Corolla, Isuzu DMax
  • Joined: 24-March 11

Posted 09 September 2013 - 01:15 PM

I hope you get rid of those nolathane K-Frame bushes before your final assembly.



#27 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:18 PM

I hope you get rid of those nolathane K-Frame bushes before your final assembly.

Oh yeah there going alright especially after all the bad things people have been experiencing with crumbling.
Back to rubber for me....all the suspension bushes are rubber and that's the way their gonna stay lol.

#28 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 31 March 2014 - 07:22 PM

Well its been months since my last update but the work on the Torry hasnt stopped.........been doing the body work, skim coating panels and spraying polyester filler to refine the profiles even further.

So far so good......spent a lot of time blocking and making dust......certainly messes up your shed thats for sure :sucker:

Heres a heap of pics of the progress so far.

 

This is where I was up to in my last posts

 

20131024_200504.jpg

 

20131024_200552.jpg

 

Gave the bonnet a strip and a coat of epoxy 408

 

20131103_162315.jpg

 

20131103_173518.jpg

 

20131121_161616.jpg

 

Then the doors and front guards

 

20131124_161010.jpg

 

20131124_182735.jpg

 

20131121_161422.jpg

 

20131121_161600.jpg

 

Had a little trial fit of the body kit

 

20131215_164344.jpg

 

Started skimming the panels flat.....its amaising just how ripply the body was so it took a lot of work and guide coat to get her flat.

 

20140210_122817.jpg

 

Smoothed out the apertures and sills and re epoxied.

 

20140303_123602.jpg

 

Seam sealed the floor pan and gave it a coat of Sika Guard rubberized under body coating......nice stuff

 

20140305_182100.jpg

 

Time for the Reface polyester spray filler.....I like this stuff... sands like chalk...gave the body 3 coats and allow to set up for a week.

 

20140314_130837.jpg

 

Blocking the reface using guide coat and tape to keep the lines nice and straight.

 

20140307_185157.jpg

 

20140307_185210.jpg

 

Scuffed the apertures and tapped her up ready for high build primer.

 

20140311_165939.jpg

 

20140311_165958.jpg

 

Gave her a 4 shot of primer

 

20140312_123630.jpg

 

20140312_123616.jpg

 

20140312_123605.jpg

 

20140312_123654.jpg

 

Nice and straight again 

 

20140312_143151.jpg

 

20140312_143451.jpg

 

Skimmed the boot lid....thanks to lousy sand blasting that caused ripples in the skin

 

20140313_120156.jpg

 

Refaced and ready to block flat

 

20140314_131912.jpg

 

Skim coated the doors....blocked flat and refaced

 

20140324_154611.jpg

 

20140324_154556.jpg

 

20140330_121008.jpg

 

The spray filled doors are looking very good.....ready to block for Hi build primer

 

20140330_121902.jpg

 

 

So thats where im up to with the body work.

As of tonight I have bolted all the doors back on and set the gaps and swedges so I can start on the alignment of the front guards and nosecone....Its all coming together really well especially since this shell was a rusted hulk when I bought it and has had that many welded repairs done that I thought it would be a lot more work straightening her up.

So far so good and I hope this helps someone on there build.

More to come.

cheers

Al 

 

 

 



#29 _Bomber Watson_

_Bomber Watson_
  • Guests

Posted 31 March 2014 - 07:49 PM

Awesome build. 

 

Wish i had a quarter of your metal skills. 

 

How nice is Epotec 408 to work with? I recommend it all the time and think its fantastic. 

 

And i see you apply bog the same way i do hehehehe. 

 

And which High build primer are you using, out of curiosity?

 

Cheers. 


Edited by Bomber Watson, 31 March 2014 - 07:50 PM.


#30 SmacT

SmacT

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 957 posts
  • Name:Sam
  • Location:Sydney
  • Car:LX 4dr 383, TKX, BW
  • Joined: 24-December 08

Posted 31 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

Great build. That is one straight looking Torrie

#31 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 31 March 2014 - 08:48 PM

Yep Epotech is unreal and protects well.....Im using PPG HS Primer Filler No 467-49413 

Ive used it for years and other painters I know also use it as well......goes on nice lays very flat and has a nice build depending on mix ratio.

 

Your painter arnt you Bomber, what type of high fill do you use or prefer 



#32 _Bomber Watson_

_Bomber Watson_
  • Guests

Posted 31 March 2014 - 08:53 PM

I use Protec CP-6120, mainly because the supplier is close to me and also the supplier for work = trade price for me haha. 

 

PPG owns Protec, would be interesting to compare to two products side by side....

 

Cheers. 



#33 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:01 PM

Yeh would be interesting, I don't think you could go wrong with any PPG product, they are good all round quality.

 

I get my paint at trade price also hehe still know guys in the industry......never burn bridges :spoton:



#34 _Bomber Watson_

_Bomber Watson_
  • Guests

Posted 31 March 2014 - 09:08 PM

To right bud. 



#35 LOOKING4HATCH

LOOKING4HATCH

    Forum Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 68 posts
  • Name:Scott
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:LX hatch
  • Joined: 19-May 10

Posted 31 March 2014 - 10:08 PM

looking good, what skim coat are you using ?



#36 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:46 AM

Gday Scott.....i use Rage Black Gold by evercoat same as rage gold but the aussie version.
For skimming i add a dash of diggers fiber glass resin to help it flow out over large areas and it helps extend the working time of the filler.
You could use evercoats plastic honey filler thinner but its hard to get.
The diggers resin does the same anyway and is cheaper...has a similar styrene content so it works excellent.
After this coat i refine the level with Upol dolphin glaze.....sands really well

#37 BIG KEV

BIG KEV

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,218 posts
  • Name:Kevin
  • Location:SYDNEY
  • Car:LHSLR5000 and The 6LT Project
  • Joined: 02-January 12

Posted 01 April 2014 - 07:20 AM

Hi Al .....its coming alone nicely ....you have to be proud of your self....Top job
You have skills above most of us ....

#38 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:10 AM

Thanks kev...a few years in the panel trade helps.....have you got your car on the spit yet

#39 Redslur

Redslur

    Has been Torana owner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,536 posts
  • Name:Gerry
  • Location:Canberra
  • Car:HQ GTS Replica 350.
  • Joined: 08-November 05

Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:20 AM

Awesome job.  Actually went and had a look at a club members car at the weekend and he is is giving his hatch as much attention too.  Wish I had the skills of some off you guys. 



#40 _mick74lh_

_mick74lh_
  • Guests

Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:42 AM

Wow! The quality of work you're doing on this is second to none.

 

Cool Sigma too. I usually hate the things but the one you built is so nice.



#41 eyepeeler

eyepeeler

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,959 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:77 SL Hatchback, Chrome Yellow L34, LX IPRA Race Car the White Ghost
  • Joined: 16-August 08

Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:12 PM

Nice work. I like the method of covering the entire panel with filler, you would get a much better result than the way I did it with my race car which was spots here and there. I will do it that way next time.

Good stuff mate,



#42 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:27 PM

Hi Eyepeeler....you get a much flatter surface but its a bit more effort bocking it out.
It looks like a lot of filler however you can basically see through it so theres not much left on the panels.
Some say its the cheats way to do it and for real quality it should be file finished metal but unless you have the know how to file it this is the best wsy by far.
Good luck with your car

#43 _j.e.d._

_j.e.d._
  • Guests

Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:56 PM

Wow, that's some amazing work there Al - I'm inspired!  :clappin:



#44 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 April 2014 - 08:55 PM

Well finished putting the front panels on tonight..............aligning them ready for a skim coat of filler except the bonnet which is near perfect.

Found a couple of small imperfections with the bonnet gap to nosecone.

 

Left side looking from front is ok but the right side tapers into a bigger gap......just enough to be noticeable

 

Left

20140401_203239.jpg

 

Right is not as good

 

20140401_203301.jpg

 

But looking not too bad from a distance.......cant wait to finish this off so i can get it painted.

 

20140401_203026.jpg

 

Left the front doors just coated with polyester until I skim the guards......I will profile the front guards to the door profile so I can get a good shape and alignment.

 

20140401_203041.jpg

 

Ok thats it for a few days......should be finished this weekend....cheers

 



#45 Ice

Ice

    Cool

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,178 posts
  • Name:Gene
  • Location:Galaxy's away from Ipswich
  • Car:77 HZ Sandman Van
  • Joined: 03-January 07

Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:10 PM

Love the way some of you guys make it look easy great work another one to keep an eye on
What colour is it going to be Al

#46 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:21 PM

Hey Gene...its going to be Flamenco Red with blackouts....I think lol.... I know..... another red one but I just like the look of them

 

Similar to this.......im not real sure if this is flamenco red or salamanca but I like this red anyway......if some one knows this car could you tell me what actual colour it is.

Oh yeh Im having round headlights though  :spoton:

4378330766_a97300546c_o.jpg



#47 eyepeeler

eyepeeler

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,959 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:77 SL Hatchback, Chrome Yellow L34, LX IPRA Race Car the White Ghost
  • Joined: 16-August 08

Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:23 PM

I am interested in how you lined the doors up. Can you tell me how you did that?
I am going to be doing it when all the door hardware is back on and the rubbers in place.
I have done it before by loosening off the bolts and using the play in that to adjust. Do you do that or do you use another method?

#48 Ice

Ice

    Cool

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,178 posts
  • Name:Gene
  • Location:Galaxy's away from Ipswich
  • Car:77 HZ Sandman Van
  • Joined: 03-January 07

Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:29 PM

Hey Gene...its going to be Flamenco Red with blackouts....I think lol.... I know..... another red one but I just like the look of them
 
Similar to this.......im not real sure if this is flamenco red or salamanca but I like this red anyway......if some one knows this car could you tell me what actual colour it is.
Oh yeh Im having round headlights though  :spoton:
4378330766_a97300546c_o.jpg

Yep red does look good on toranas no to ways about it

#49 slar

slar

    Forum Fan

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 498 posts
  • Name:AL
  • Location:Newcastle
  • Car:Rusty the Torana......Nearly complete
  • Joined: 14-September 09
Garage View Garage

Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:34 PM

I am interested in how you lined the doors up. Can you tell me how you did that?
I am going to be doing it when all the door hardware is back on and the rubbers in place.
I have done it before by loosening off the bolts and using the play in that to adjust. Do you do that or do you use another method?

Hey Eyepeeler...its pretty easy ......you will have to remove the front guards again before you start though this will make it heaps easier.

 

Always start on the rear doors first.

I never have the rubbers in first....I think that makes it harder to move the door but your choice.

Its also good to have the internals in the door as this will allow you to adjust the door with the correct weight applied.

This is what I do

Bolt the hinges to the rear doors (just nip up the bolts) try and centralise them in there sliding holes as you have about 5mm up and down and in and out adjustment on the door and 5mm up and down and front to rear on the B pillar

Position the door on the B pillar with someone helping you and nip up the B pillar hinge bolts.

Adjust hinges to get the door central to aperture without hitting anywhere.

Once its in a rough position check out the alignment with the rear quater and check the gap at the bottom of the door to the sill panel and the door to rear quater panel.....I aim for a 5 to 6 mm even gap...adjust as necessary on the b pillar

Then check the top of the door just under the rain gutter and ensure there is a nice even curved gap in that area.

Next check the B pillar to window frame gap this should be even and about 5 to 6mm also.

Once youve got the door central in the aperture and all gaps pretty even you need to adjust the door in and out cause it will probably be protruding up around the window frame or at the sill panel area.

Loosen the bottom hinge bolts on the door first and move the door in or out to so the bottom swedge on the door is flush with the sill panel....then nip up the bottom bolt only so the door can pivot in the next stage..

Loosen the top hinge bolts on the door and adjust the in/out so the window frame is flush with the B pillar.

Check the rear door alignment and flushness to the rear quater....this should be pretty right if the sill and window frames are flush and in there correct position. Nip everything up

If you have the locking hardware already in your door you may need to remove the striker bolt to make these adjustments as this wont allow you to move the door up or down.

Replace your striker bolt once your happy and adjust it so the door closes flush with the rear quater panel.

 

its a long explination....sorry

 

Do exactly the same with your front doors.....its the same principal...aim for even gaps all round the doors and use the alignment of the swedge lines (folds in your door) to accurately line them up.

To do the front doors you need the front guards off the car as this will allow easy access to the hinge bolts on the A pillar.

Once the front doors are done replace the guards and aim for an even gap between the guard and the front door and the bonnet and the guard.....you may need to shim the front guard on the A pillar to make it flush with the front door. They did come originally with shims for this very reason.

 

Then move onto the nosecone......same again even gaps....flushness with mating panels.

 

Always work from the rear to the front of the vehicle if you want a good fit.

 

All in all you just have to take your time be carefull and tweak and persevere until you get it right.

 

Just remember the old torana always had dodgy door gaps and panel fitment some of these gaps my have to be larger or smaller depending on your panels.....they had very large tolerances which makes this a bit of a pain in the bum.

 

There thats how I do it....works for me

Good luck 

Cheers

Al



#50 eyepeeler

eyepeeler

    Forum Fixture

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,959 posts
  • Location:Perth
  • Car:77 SL Hatchback, Chrome Yellow L34, LX IPRA Race Car the White Ghost
  • Joined: 16-August 08

Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:46 PM

Cheers Al, appreciate you taking the time to explain that.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users