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#26 Swarbs

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:54 AM

Thanks for sharing Al

You wouldn't have a run down on the power source would you?

 

Had a yarn to the sparkies at work yesterday about this, and they ended up with something half the size of a sub station to control and regulate the power supply - total cost approx 2.5 million but they assured me it would be failsafe 



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:23 AM

Thanks for sharing Al
You wouldn't have a run down on the power source would you?
 
Had a yarn to the sparkies at work yesterday about this, and they ended up with something half the size of a sub station to control and regulate the power supply - total cost approx 2.5 million but they assured me it would be failsafe 


Seriously I went through the same process as you but found with trial and error that you need low voltage with 500ma to 1amp power supply.
I use a simple plug in power pack, you know the little black sqare ones like a phone charger.
Its a 6 volt 500ma dc charger simple as that.
I also have a 9v 1amp power pack i used for doing the larger bolts.
You cant regulate them but what you can do is add more parts on the hanger, this has the effect of reducing amperage per part, so the more parts being plated the less overall amperage per part which is good because too much amperage will burn the zinc black and will not coat properly.
Its better to go slow than ramp up the amps.
Trial and error, in an earlier post i stated the approx ammount of bolts and washers per charger as a starting indication, just have a crack at it and you will see what i mean after a couple of attempts.
Good luck
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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:29 AM

Got a DIY triple plate chrome writeup? :D


Oh how i wish, but im looking into it

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

Cheers
Looking at setting this up as being so far away from Perth being the nearest place it turns into a pain in the arse

Will let you know how i go

Edited by Swarbs, 05 September 2013 - 10:34 AM.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 11:25 AM

Got a DIY triple plate chrome writeup? :D

i dont think there are kits for this.

triple plated is 1st copper 2nd nickle 3rd chrome.

maybe 3 diffrent kits?

i found copper to be a pain in the ass

good copper plating comes from a formaldehyde tank. very bad stuff.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:16 PM

i dont think there are kits for this.
triple plated is 1st copper 2nd nickle 3rd chrome.
maybe 3 diffrent kits?
i found copper to be a pain in the ass
good copper plating comes from a formaldehyde tank. very bad stuff.

at least your insides will be preserved...

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:15 PM

Lol Nar the alcohol preserves the insides.
I cant say I touched the formaldehyde tank. There where enough signs and warnings to know this was bad for you.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:33 AM

i dont think there are kits for this.

triple plated is 1st copper 2nd nickle 3rd chrome.

maybe 3 diffrent kits?

i found copper to be a pain in the ass

good copper plating comes from a formaldehyde tank. very bad stuff.

http://www.caswellpl...ome-plating-kit



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 01:55 PM

my apologies they have got a kit.

they have combined it into 1 kit now. not 3 different kits.

yet still 3 different processes. would like to see the quality of the plating from this set up.

looks sound good in there write up,

its there nickle kit i was using years ago. yes it worked just not to a show quality finish and some bits would still rust.

this could of been a volt/amp/temp problem.

 

http://www.caswellpl...ome-plating-kit

my apologies they have got a kit.

they have combined it into 1 kit now. not 3 different kits.

yet still 3 different processes. would like to see the quality of the plating from this set up.

looks sound good in there write up,

its there nickle kit i was using years ago. yes it worked just not to a show quality finish and some bits would still rust.

this could of been a volt/amp/temp problem.



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Posted 19 April 2016 - 09:33 PM

Do you have any pics of how you submerge the items? Is it fiddly wrapping copper around bolts and stuff?

 

How would using a basket (similar to a deep fryer basket) go for doing multiple pieces?

 

Cheers



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Posted 19 April 2016 - 10:11 PM

Wouldnt want to be doing chrome at home.

Releases chormium into the solution which is cancer causing, not to mention the EPA would have a field day on you.

 

Funny thing l have never met a old chromer.

 

On tripple chroming if you plater doesnt offer a copper base walk out, the chrome wont last.

l have 22 year old tripple plate on my 57 and it still gleems when polished.

The diecast taillights are being held together by the chrome as the diecast is corroding from the other side.

 

regards Bruce



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Posted 23 April 2016 - 05:00 PM

Completely forgot about this thread

I did set it up with some good results

 

Big trick is getting the voltage and amps right for the amount you have in the tank

 

Big downside is the damn thing rusted everything in the shed that was bare metal

Not sure what the by product fumes are coming off the set up but if you do it  - do it outside or in a well ventilated area

In the end for the amount i done, ended up sending the lot to Perth

 

Pretty time consuming but good for one of or small amount jobs



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Posted 02 February 2018 - 07:34 PM

I had a crack at the home DIY zinc plating with great results! 

 

I adopted some of Al's (slar) methods but came up with a quicker way. 

 

I bypassed wire wheeling the parts after cleaning & just sandblasted them in my cabinet.

 

Then dropped them in the acid clean bucket until the fizzing stopped.

 

Sprayed de-ironized water to wash & dry off (cloth & compressed air). Then hung them in the electrolyte bucket.

 

For a good layer of zinc; allow plating time around 15-45 mins. I found the 9 volt - 800 ma charger the best & quicker plating process. 

 

After electroplating time; pull out, wash again with de-ironized watar & dry (cloth & compressed air).

 

Note; I didn't use Al's (slar) Chemtech Blitz cleaning process. I didn't think it was necessary. 

 

I just went straight on to using the softer brass wire hand brush while dry & then a quick dry polish with a cotton rag.

 

Doing that brings out a natural zinc finish. If you want a brighter look; just do the polishing process.

 

That's it..it worked a treat with less fuss!    B)


Edited by Ando, 03 February 2018 - 04:13 AM.


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 02:52 PM

i used a very similar method to do my bonnet hinges, i used a bigger variable power supply though and only 3 zinc anodes around the tank, 

It worked, but took longer and i dont think it was as good a job as yours was, but it did the trick



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 03:21 PM

Jaycar probably has a variable power supply at a good price either built or in kit form.

I used a power supply I built years ago. 0 to 15V at 1 amp max. Worked a treat after I tried some phone chargers that didnt last long.

Had to dig around old stuff to find the power supply.

Results are good.

will be trying a nickel one next.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:03 PM

Hi everyone,

I seek advice. What am I doing wrong?

I've followed Al (SLAR) 's methods in DIY Zinc plating (thanks for your 2013 post). I bought 4 zinc anodes from boat shop so I halved the liquid formula to compensate.

No zinc seems to be transferring to the parts. Parts come out looking exactly as they go in.

I definitely have power source. Power output on transformer shows 12 volts at 1 amp. Is that too high?

Or is it possible I wasn't sold zinc anodes despite being told they were?

There seems to be no fizzing.

It seems everyone else is having no troubles! Any help is appreciated.

Cheers
Rob

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 07:32 PM

Do you have the polarity correct? The current flow has to be in the right direction for the zinc to transfer.

 

No fizzing, maybe recheck you actually have power available at the job and the zinc.



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 09:05 PM

Auto Electrician told me for power source which were the positive and negative connections, positive connection to anodes, negative to cathodes. Hopefully right, I'll check again tomorrow. Thanks for responding. Cheers

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 08:13 AM

Maintain the same electrolyte solution.

I went with 5 anodes on mine.

4 around the sides, and 1 in the bottom.

 

Positive to the anodes, negative to the gear you are plating.

Some battery chargers wont produce an output without a battery being connected to them.

That may be your problem.

 

Need to prime up the solution by plating some scrap first.

 

I got great results. Am thinking that nickel would have been a better option though.

Same system, different anodes



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Posted 29 March 2021 - 03:32 PM

Just found this, going to try it very soon. 

The forum is so cool for stuff like this......



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Posted 30 March 2021 - 03:38 PM

Beware the fumes 

whatever it gives off will rust bare metal in your shed



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Posted 01 April 2021 - 09:51 AM

Yep. Vinegar being acidic will attack any bare metal.

Being fumes, it spreads easily with the slightest breeze.

Best to do it outside with a fan to direct the air into an area that is suitable.

 

Cheers

 

Rob






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