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#1 SS hatch

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 04:18 PM

Using these for a Hq brake upgrade Lx, Upon fitment today the tie rod is fowling for correct install of bolts,.All has been fitted prior to assembly to car with grinding done to allow bolt up for caliper fitment.Correct me if wrong Do I have two options fit caliper to rear of disk or remove the offending material.Ive searched and only info to alloy callipers material removal. I dont want to remove material if not needed with this style caliper mount.All parts standard to Lx rts with only calipers and redrilled Hq disk changed.    



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:22 PM

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

Unless you have got the discs machined down in size you'll need HK-WB stubs as well.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 05:48 PM

All machining done as fitment done with caliper prior to installment. Rob have called 



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:03 PM

The caliper can't fit a HQ disc on an LH-UC stub afaik unless the actual disc size is reduced? Or have I missed something?



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

Nope you are correct Outside Dia reduced to allow caliper fitment, only issue is tie rod head wont allow caliper cradle to bolt to stub..All test fitted prior to installment to car with stub removed from car


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:31 PM

I'm unfamiliar with the girlock caliper but is it possible there's a left and right hand version?

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 11:03 PM

Yes they are left and right handed

But if he's had it mounted preiously to the stub I'm interpreting it that the caliper if fouling the tierod ?

 

The Girlock is the best caliper... but simply struggles to fit on the Torana

I recommend it for the big Holdens... but rarely for Toranas and never with reduced discs.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 11:27 PM

The UC steering arms will give you a little more clearance compared to the LX. How much more clearance do you need?

 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:32 AM

The UC arm would help The caliper slide needs some material removed beside the head of the tie rod.Standard caliper slide has a area scoloped out to allow tie rod to locate.The slides are semetrical with the caliper being RH or left



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:21 AM

Are the cast iron girlocks the big kidney shape ones? I think I have them on mine had to grind some material from the caliper mount for the tie rod to clear wasn't much and dosent seem to affect strength I have hq stubs and discs



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:07 AM

No cast girlocks are not kidney shaped

They are very chunky around the bracket

 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:24 PM

I have HQ stubs, discs and Girlock cast iron calipers on my LX.

 

This pic shows how the caliper cradle fouls the tie rod prior to scalloping.

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This pic shows 2 different type of tie rod ends available which would limit the amount needing to be scalloped.

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You can see the areas which were scalloped for clearance in this shot. Highlighted by arrows.

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Here is the clearance once installed up.

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Finished. Cheap worthwhile conversion using readily available parts and some graft.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:27 PM

Now if you were doing that with Torana stubs the calipers going to need abit more modding because the disc is 20mm smaller

 

Hence why I don't recommend this caliper for that purpose



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:48 PM

Ooops. Shit. Yes, my post above is useless to you unless you want to change stub axles.

Sorry about that guys  :(



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:36 PM

After some measurements it looks like I will have some calipers for sale.Grinding structual componetes is altering their orignal design integatory. Still wanting to stay with cast calipers do the Hq kidney cast calipers have issues with this setup.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 04:24 PM

very helpful many thanks



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:56 PM

Helpful to me too. I have just done a HQ disc upgrade today with PBR LX calipers with HX slides. 2 problems we had was the grease nipple on the tie rod end grease nipple is now blocked from being greased due to the caliper almost sitting on top of it. Other problem we had was when we installed the calipers and done up all the bolts the disc was too tight and not spinning freely, we have solved this issue though.

 

The problem with the grease nipple can be solved by installing the tie rod ends in the above pictures. Thanks LS1rana.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:40 PM

Anyone know what part no. those tie rod ends with the side grease nipple are or where i can get them from?



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:38 AM

They all carry the same part number

Just different brands have the bleeder in different spots



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:58 AM

Well in that case does anyone know what brand they are?



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:27 AM

Do these look like the ones?

 

http://www.ebay.com....=item3f194f4f86

 

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:43 PM

Picture isn't always what you get

So ask them first :)



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:27 AM

SS Hatch have you managed to fit these calipers and if so what mods have you done?



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:01 AM

Have a set of Hq cast pbr Fitted these yesterday with uc steering arms.Slight grind to arm very minimal just to remove casting seam as made bolt up slightly tight to insert bolts.Could have done this to caliper cradle bolt up arm but still have a problem. RH side is as pictured on forum, LH side has a rectangle cast cutout and slide pins are bigger than RH 16mm v 12mm.Found out its a one tonner pbr beefed up type.There a mates from Perth so using them for fitment hence I dont want to grind them. I like to keep things the same each side both do fit.With standard RH side all fits with nipple removed close but does clear without grinding.Easy way to solve nipple prob grease up tie rod remove nipple insert correct gubscrew.Today I will trial fit girlocks but I think I know the out come already just for curosity.Aso will try with standard lx arm today. IT seems to be a goer for my setup. In saying this the car has not hit the deck still up in the air only a jack under LCA

So looking for a set of pbr cast type or all else fails I can use the two I have now.






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