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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:05 PM

hi has any one used one of these or something similar before http://www.nzad.co.n...standard-clutch

 

I want to use it on my lj torana running a 202 with a celica w50 box

 

cheers blair



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 02:08 PM

Never used one, but just a heads up if you do decide to run one...heap cheaper over here, and summit's airmail prices direct are pretty good from memory..

 

http://www.summitrac...82870/overview/



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:30 PM

Yep used a few of them

Welby has one in his targa hatch with a TKO600

I've fitted one to a toploader in a VK Brock

Plus a few others

 

Plenty of pics of other peoples conversions here using them too

I think Evan is using one too and even showed how to set it up

 

I'd suggest for the celica box you use one with a different bearing though... not a flat faced one

But one that looks more rounded where the bearing meets the cover plate



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:04 AM

You should use a radius faced bearing for a flat fingered diaphragm, and a flat faced bearing when you have curved fingers.

Make sure you check out how much travel it has, some of those are only designed for the small 7" odd diameter clutches and don't have enough travel to disengage a normal clutch.

In general the hydraulic thrust bearings work great though.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 03:00 PM

thanks guys. im going to have on last attempt at the cable this weekend then will probably end up going for hydraulic thrust bearing. ive read that they can be bad for leaking? and you need to set up a stopper on your pedal to stop pushing to much fliud through and bursting the seal. has anyone had any expernce with that?



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 08:52 PM

Yes you will need to limit the travel, any half decent unit will have all that in the installation instructions

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:42 PM

And if your pedal ratio and master cylinder size are matched you might not even need a stop

Usually go for around .7 " masters with my conversions



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 10:52 AM

cheers guys that's been a really big help. any other tips for doing a gear box change?



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 11:57 AM

Tip 1 - buy a hoist if you can afford it.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:24 PM

+1 for hoist

 

I found the Quartermaster an easy fit, was actually really easy except for bolting the transmission back in.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 06:32 PM

has anyone used a hydraulic throwout on an m21 ?

(or any ussie 4 speed, m21 20 22 etc)


Edited by A9X, 03 November 2013 - 06:33 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2013 - 07:49 PM

I have

And plan to do another on my sedan

 

I think one of the kiwis did it too



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

any hints and tips datto?



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 08:50 PM

I haven't done mine yet... but basically the same setup as the TKO Mark

I think the sleeve the bearing runs on with the M21 is a different size but quartermaster do a bearing to suit

Holes in the bellhousing for pipe in and out... unless you use the fork holes

And mount the bleeder high to make it easy to get too

 

Hydraulics I haven't even thought about yet... probably some under dash thing around 3/4 bore



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 09:05 PM

I did one with a Tilton setup to suit Muncie (screw adjustment style). Just cut down an input shaft cover/thrust bearing slide as the OD of it fits snugly inside the Muncie replacement piece and used longer bolts with spacers.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:33 AM

has anyone used a hydraulic throwout on an m21 ?

(or any ussie 4 speed, m21 20 22 etc)

 

Yes, on a M21 Muncie, Quartermaster 721-100.

 

I used a heavy cloth tape to hold the bearing in place on the long bolt which stops it rotating as you put the transmission back in, which helped a lot. Reach through the dust cover to remove the tape once installed - if you used cloth tape it shouldn't rip or leave debris in there.

 

See also

 

http://www.gmh-toran...ow-out-bearing/



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 12:39 AM

thanks all



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:15 AM

Put a ram one behind the 308 with the T10, works beautifully with a 13/16 wilwood under dash remote slave. tried a 3/4 first up but not enough pressure.







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