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[Stinga]

Has anyone heard anything about this stuff, or used it??

 

http://www.evanscool...e-products.html

[DMLC71]

On Foxtel last week, Ned from Wheelers and Dealers used it in a sports car and all the info he supplied was very interesting.
That was the first I heard of it
Daz

[Litre8]

Been around for quite a few years I think. Interested to hear on the pros and cons compared to water/'regular' coolant.

[N/A-PWR]

 

Has anyone heard anything about this stuff, or used it??

 

Nice Stinga,

 Would it be about $130 for the final 3.8 litres? Dave I

Edited by TORYPOWER, 28 October 2013 - 09:24 PM.

[Stinga]

 

 

 

Nice Stinga,

 Would it be about $130 for the final 3.8 litres? Dave I

Provided the system is not left open to the atmosphere or accidentally contaminated with water it will last the life time of the engine. Forget longlife, Evans is 4life!

[ls2lxhatch]

There is also an similar product made in Australia.

 

Liquid Intelligence Waterless Coolant
http://liquidintelligence115.com.au/

 

 

Evans Waterless Coolant
http://www.evanscool...e-products.html

http://www.evanscool...leno's-garage/1

http://www.evanscool...ge-revisited/40

 

I have been considering running it so I don't need an expansion tank. I also like the safety aspect of the cooling system not being pressurised.

[TerrA LX]

My cooling system functions fine with water.
Running distilled water is a must tho if you want a near perfect water based coolant.
AFIK it's near 100% glycol (plus what other additives)
I would never run straight coolant without water.
Glycol = flammable???


Higher running temps is one of the cons they fail to highlight.

Also, if you don't entirely clear your cooling system of water then their claims of zero steam pockets and corrosion protection is lost. Even they state that.

[ls2lxhatch]

My cooling system functions fine with water.

Running distilled water is a must tho if you want a near perfect water based coolant.

AFIK it's near 100% glycol (plus what other additives)

I would never run straight coolant without water.

Glycol = flammable???

Higher running temps is one of the cons they fail to highlight.

Also, if you don't entirely clear your cooling system of water then their claims of zero steam pockets and corrosion protection is lost. Even they state that.

 

Liquid Intelligence 115 claim the cooling system will run cooler with their products.
 

It also represents a 30% increase in thermal efficiencies for pressured cooling systems when compared to all conventional coolants

 
 
Evans have a bet each way.
 

The operating temperature of the engine and coolant may increase slightly, by approximately 3-7 degrees. However the temperature inside the engine will be consistent and steam vapour will not be produced. i.e engines often run cooler with Evans Waterless Coolants.

 
 
Liquid Intelligence contains 30% Mono Ethylene Glycol , 60% Heat Dissipation Polymers and 10% Organic Inhibitors.
 
Premix coolant is around 30-50% Glycol.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 29 October 2013 - 09:28 PM.

[rodomo]

PffffT! back in the day, my Ol' EH ran damn dam water! Holden part No. 7354481!

[ls2lxhatch]

There are a couple of factors about the Evans coolant that appeal to me as I have an alloy engine with an alloy radiator.

No need to change the coolant ever.
No pressure in the cooling system. Safer and no need for an expansion tank.
No electrolysis. Evans Waterless Coolants are non-conductive.
No corrosion.

12L of 5 year coolant is around $150
12L of Evans is around $270.

It doesn't seem like a huge investment if it delivers on the above.

If you have a fresh motor to put in then it is just a matter of choosing which coolant you fill with.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 29 October 2013 - 11:22 PM.

[76lxhatch]

I don't want it to run cooler!

... water... It's cheap, I can get it anywhere and it's performance is perfectly satisfactory.

My thoughts exactly.



I don't really see any of the above points as actual benefits, but for the 1% who may and are willing to pay dearly for it (including cooling system changes to suit), fine. But be careful... as with many 'miracle' products, they seem to be advertising the advantages of their product as a fix-all; no amount of super-coolant is going to be a workable band-aid for a cooling system that doesn't work to begin with.

[myss427]

I'm going to give it a try very soon, as big blocks are well known for running on the hotter side. Mine runs ok in normal circumstances, but idleing over 20 minutes when caught in traffic you can't keep your eyes off the temp gauge! For piece of mind I think its worth a go.

[myss427]

I have the biggest Serc fans I can fit in the available space, but big blocks with big cams and compression generate a lot of heat in the engine bay.

[ls2lxhatch]

Obviously plain water isn't going to cut it for an aluminium engine. But I'm pretty sure you don't have to spend $150 for something that will.

 
 
What coolant would you run in a LS2? (Coolant specification is GM6277M, Capacity is 12L)
 
How much would is cost over 5 years?
 
 
The $150 estimate was based on 3 x 5L Nulon red long life (5 yr coolant) at $48.95 ea at Supercheap. I chose a 5 yr coolant to make it a reasonable comparisome to a lifetime coolant. It turns out I had the price for the Nulon concentrate not the Nulon premix so it should have been 3 x $31.75 = $95.25.
 
 
 
The following coolants are 5 year coolants that meet he requirements of GM6277M.
 
3 x 5L Nulon Red Long Life  at $31.75 ea = $95.25
 
3 x 5L Tectaloy  VPlus Orange at $66.50 each = . $199.50

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 30 October 2013 - 12:04 PM.

[WhiteA9XS]

waste of money , $15.00 gets you a bottle of redline water wetter , as good as it gets and if you decide to take the radiator out or remove the engine just add another bottle .