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[Neils LX]

yeh thats the maggot

 

cheers gong

Little Kiddie fiddler wants hanging.

[Dr Terry]

But as the Toyota case in the high court, only this week proved, you can't 'dissolve' any enterprise agreement. So Holden had no choice, it had to close, Toyota will soon follow.

 

Dr Terry

[yel327]

Time to get your glasses or eyes checked me thinks seriously

Or your gay

Lol

I know there is better looking women in the world but to say she is average cmon

I have to agree Gene, just one look at her POST BABY on the Victoria's Secret catwalk is enough to give a girl a stiffy!
She isn't the best, but she's far from average!

[StephenSLR]

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Edited by StephenSLR, 18 December 2013 - 10:02 AM.

[hanra]

I think I read a comment earlier along the lines of, something that played a part in this was that Aussies dont have a sense of patriotism anymore for the local brand. Could this be brought on by opening the borders to every tom dick and harry from across the globe?

I look back at old Holden advertising and photos and you can just get this feeling that the people back then felt they belonged to this country, they were born here, they followed the countrys laws, they were proud to be Australian and to buy a product made by Australians for Australians.

I mean if you went to another country, would you get keen for a Skoda, Fiat or Ssangyong or what ever the f uck it is? Or would you still have a soft spot for Holden and never truly get behind the brand from that country you moved to.

[StephenSLR]

I mean if you went to another country, would you get keen for a Skoda, Fiat or Ssangyong or what ever the f uck it is? Or would you still have a soft spot for Holden and never truly get behind the brand from that country you moved to.

 

We don't exactly have a large number of Lebanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Somalian or Nigerian cars available for sale here.

 

I imagine if Holden is employing foreigners then they may have an interest in supporting Holden but as mentioned previously look at the Holden factory car park and there isn't many Holdens there.

What happened to the days when employees got a discounted product from the company they worked for?  Either the discount still didn't make a Holden as enticing as another brand or the employees thought other brands of cars were better/more suited to them.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 18 December 2013 - 10:32 AM.

[hanra]

Thats true, but if they cant choose a car from their native country, then they will just choose what ever else suits the budget. Not a car built by Aussies for Aussies because they may not have that sense of Aussie patriotism.

I dont think its just the purchase cost of the car that puts people off, its the running costs also. 6/8 cylinder rego prices are a bit of joke these days, insurance costs and fuel consumption also dont help.

Edited by hanra, 18 December 2013 - 10:33 AM.

[StephenSLR]

I dont think its just the purchase cost of the car that puts people off, its the running costs also. 6/8 cylinder rego prices are a bit of joke these days, insurance costs and fuel consumption also dont help.

 

 Yeah but why aren't people buying the Holden equivalent of their 4 cyl. cars?

 

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[StephenSLR]

Thats true, but if they cant choose a car from their native country, then they will just choose what ever else suits the budget. Not a car built by Aussies for Aussies because they may not have that sense of Aussie patriotism.

 

I agree if you're thinking Bathurst winners are the car for Aussies, lol.

 

Unfortunately even Aussie patriots buy foreign cars, look at govt. cars, wtf is Canberra thinking by buying up BMW's?

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 18 December 2013 - 10:40 AM.

[hanra]

Sorry Im not really following, Are you saying why are people not buying 4 cylinder Holdens? As in the ones imported here from overseas? Im no expert on the Holden range, but the re-badged imported stuff Ive ever seen just appears to be very cheap quality. And perhaps the public know its not really a Holden built by Aussies for Aussies? I know my mums Cruze is the worst car she has owned and she even comments that is dangerously slow and underpowered.

[StephenSLR]

I know my mums Cruze is the worst car she has owned and she even comments that is dangerously slow and underpowered.

 

Then this is a major problem for Holden, they're not supplying an Aussie built car that Aussies like.

 

It's not only foreigners that want a cheap, reliable, economical car.

 

Both my cars are V8's so I don't represent the larger Aussie market.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 18 December 2013 - 10:51 AM.

[hanra]

One thing that just struck me is that, every Australia Day people are almost frowned upon these days for waving the Aussie flag and yelling Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi... Its seen as being a bogan or politically incorrect?

 

Could that sense of patriotism have been killed off by this bogan stereotype of what it means to be Aussie?

[Dr Terry]

Then this is a major problem for Holden, they're not supplying an Aussie built car that Aussies like.

 

It's not only foreigners that want a cheap, reliable, economical car.

 

Both my cars are V8's so I don't represent the larger Aussie market.

 

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The early Cruze was built in Korea & was relatively under-powered. Series II is Aussie built & not only is the 1.8 better they also have a 1.4 turbo with is a good thing by all reports.

 

Dr Terry 

[StephenSLR]

Make no mistake we all went in to look at the HK GTS or A9X etc because these cars where the cars racing less some of the race bits

 

Sadly those days are over, Bathurst cars all look the same and I don't have as much excitement in it as I used to when it was Brock vs. Johnson and even Walkinshaw, you could at least tell their cars apart.

 

 

One thing that just struck me is that, every Australia Day people are almost frowned upon these days for waving the Aussie flag and yelling Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi... Its seen as being a bogan or politically incorrect?

 

I know many don't like the union flag being there in the corner.

 

There's still pride in the flag at sporting events but publicly wearing the flag around your neck as well as southern cross tattoos have become associated with the Cronulla riots.

 

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[hanra]

The early Cruze was built in Korea & was relatively under-powered. Series II is Aussie built & not only is the 1.8 better they also have a 1.4 turbo with is a good thing by all reports.

Dr Terry

Yes my mothers is the first of the model. My dad hates driving it also due to its lack of power. Mum also finds the electronics very confusing and she cant even tune in a radio station.... Ive recently replaced a coil pack as it was running on 3 cylinders then a few months later the ABS pump failed which Holden offered to cover even though the car was well and truly out of warranty?????? I found that strange...........

I know many don't like the union flag being there in the corner.
 
There's still pride in the flag at sporting events but publicly wearing the flag around your neck as well as southern cross tattoos have become associated with the Cronulla riots.
 
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Thats a shame huh, I personally have no dramas with the flag or the riots.

I wonder if the same people who dont like the Union Jack also dont like the states named "Victoria", New South Wales and Queensland?

[StephenSLR]

I wonder if the same people who dont like the Union Jack also dont like the states named "Victoria", New South Wales and Queensland?

 

Probably more to do with the monarchy and becoming a republic than anything else.

 

As for Cronulla, I agree with what they were protesting about but when some of the protesters turned into the same thugs they were protesting about, it didn't leave them with a good image.

 

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[DanWA]

Just another example of how unions will end up losing more jobs than they save.

[hanra]

Dear Mr Numbnuts,

As a valued Holden customer I wanted to personally contact you regarding the recent announcement that Holden will cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017. At this time all Holden vehicles will become fully imported.

It has not been an easy time for Holden. I can honestly tell you that we considered every possible option in an effort to retain our Commodore and Cruze manufacturing operations in Australia. But in reality, it just didn’t add up.

As with every test we’ve faced during our 100-plus-year history, we are determined to rise to the challenge and hold our position as the iconic automotive brand in Australia.

So in short, I’m telling you that the Holden brand is here to stay.

For you as a Holden customer nothing changes. Servicing and the availability of parts are all unaffected by this announcement, as are our warranty and roadside assistance programs. Together with our network of over 230 dealers nationwide, we will continue to provide you with exceptional service and support.

Our range of vehicles will be built via world-class platforms that leverage the scale and expertise of GM’s global product team, just as many of our popular models are now. The local Holden Design Centre that has created and influenced so many famous Australian cars will continue to play a major role in the design of Holden vehicles sold in Australia as well as vehicles destined for all corners of the globe.

Our rich history remains in the heart and soul of every Holden produced now and in the future. We’re known for cars that are exciting to drive, at the forefront of technology and that offer great value. All supported by a dealer network that provides excellent service. This is what we do best and this will not change.

We remain focused on securing a bright future for our brand and our customers in Australia.

Holden is here to stay and I thank you for your ongoing support.

If you require further information, please contact your Holden Dealer or Customer Care on 1800 033 349.


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[RallyRed]

444 posts and we haven't solved it.....yet

[StephenSLR]

444 posts and we haven't solved it.....yet

 

Half of them have been about Miranda Kerr, lol.

 

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[Dr Terry]

444 posts and we haven't solved it.....yet

It's solved all right, they closed it down, problem gone.

 

Dr Terry

[hainzy]

Well said SS.

 

Its probably too early to know but has anyone heard what the long term plan is? I mean obviously Holden in Aus is closing down, but are we going to have chevs exported from the US by GM to us as a replacement? People were talking a few pages earlier about there being no V8 or even V6 rear powered sedans here in a few years. Will GM be working on this market?

 

Also is the Holden name shelved forever now, or are we likely to see some sort of chev GM sedan etc sent here and rebadged as a Holden for the Australian market? We did it for them so heres hoping they do it for us.

[StephenSLR]

"If they did a random drug test tomorrow they'd probably have to sack 40 per cent of the workforce," he adds.....

 

.... the average production-line worker will walk away with a redundancy package of between $300k-500k

 

I wonder how many are randomly drug tested and sacked just before the place shuts down?

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 18 December 2013 - 04:30 PM.