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#1 RallyRed

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:32 PM

Hi,
Just starting off in the club competition stuff.
Regarding heal and toe braking, is there a better was to set up the pedals to make it easier/better to do this?

I'm assuming there is a fully adjustable pedal box setup or whatever, but I'm not racing for sheep
stations, so just interested if anyone has done any simple tricks to Holden's supplied hardware?

Guess I'm really asking about the height difference between the ccel. pedal and the brake pedal.

Thanks
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:37 PM

Col mate, somewhere is a thread on this, which shows pictures of pedals etc. Dave I


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:48 PM

You are allowed to bend (or heat and bend) your standard pedals to suit your driving style.
Alot cheaper for the guys just starting out...

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 10:53 PM

here you go Col - https://www.google.c...iw=1066&bih=532


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:34 AM

thanks guys

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:45 AM

I dont know if its relevant, but i just cut and shut my pedal to get the depth i wanted. 


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 11:35 AM

Hi Jacob.....did you cut the pedal?...any pics mate?

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:46 PM

You are allowed to bend (or heat and bend) your standard pedals to suit your driving style.

really ?? wouldn,t like to do this to the brake pedal ...

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 01:14 PM

An A9X race car I have studied had a piece of hardwood bolted to the accelerator pedal and then roughed up with hacksaw cuts for grip.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 02:51 PM

really ?? wouldn,t like to do this to the brake pedal ...

Really??? Damn those bends put there by Holden.

FWIW I'm not suggesting climbing under the dash and bending something untill it breaks more so to do it properly. If it needs to be removed from the car then so be it.
Wouldn't be the first time someone has done it...
Or gear sticks for that matter...

Edited by TerrA LX, 10 December 2013 - 02:52 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:21 PM

An A9X race car I have studied had a piece of hardwood bolted to the accelerator pedal and then roughed up with hacksaw cuts for grip.

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my preferred method .
 
 

Really??? Damn those bends put there by Holden.

FWIW I'm not suggesting climbing under the dash and bending something untill it breaks more so to do it properly. If it needs to be removed from the car then so be it.
Wouldn't be the first time someone has done it...
Or gear sticks for that matter...

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bucket load of brake foot pressure in a race car , hate the brake pedal to bend or snap because its been fatigued with bending or straightening even with oxy.
I would prefer to modify the accelator pedal to match the brake pedal..

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:46 PM

Hi,
Just starting off in the club competition stuff.
Regarding heal and toe braking, is there a better was to set up the pedals to make it easier/better to do this?

I'm assuming there is a fully adjustable pedal box setup or whatever, but I'm not racing for sheep
stations, so just interested if anyone has done any simple tricks to Holden's supplied hardware?

Guess I'm really asking about the height difference between the ccel. pedal and the brake pedal.

Thanks
Col

Considered left foot braking?


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 05:55 PM

An A9X race car I have studied had a piece of hardwood bolted to the accelerator pedal and then roughed up with hacksaw cuts for grip.

 

Skateboard deck grip tape works well too


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 06:35 PM

Left foot braking is no substitute for Heel-Toe downshifting.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:41 PM

bucket load of brake foot pressure in a race car , hate the brake pedal to bend or snap because its been fatigued with bending or straightening even with oxy.
I would prefer to modify the accelator pedal to match the brake pedal..

I'm not suggesting everyone should run out and start heating and/or bending their brake pedal with no insite to what they are doing, merely stating it can be done.
In any event there is nothing wrong with bending the accelerator peddle around to suit your own application...

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:52 PM

thanks again guys....might also have a look thru some Nc cars next time I see them somewhere

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 08:09 PM

Left foot braking is no substitute for Heel-Toe downshifting.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 09:43 PM

Col not hard as long as you trust your weld, if not get an engineer to do it. What i would suggest would be to take it out, take some measurements. dummy it up how you want it, tack weld it, then have it done properly should you not want to weld it yourself. Hardest part is getting it right. 


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:08 AM

so what is the prefered outcome......raised accel.? or lowered brake?
I'm guessing the accel wouldnt want to be too high or it would be uncomfortable to use?

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:46 AM

It depends on the height relationship of the brake pedal (when fully depressed) to the accelerator. In this configuration you want the accelerator pedal at a height where it is easily accessible for the 'heel' blipping without requiring ankle gymnastics.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:18 AM

I brought the throttle up on my racecar

Made life alot easier

 

And I did both left foot braking and heel toe depending on whether doing hillclimb or circuit


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:31 AM

 Col , question ...  are you using the LJ or LC accelerator pedal ?  LC pedal is the go however if using LJ or LH/LX type pedal then you can cable tie the top of the pad down to stop the swivel . its just personal choice .  

 

Also I found it best when your accelator pedal is the same height as your brake pedal when brake pedal was depressed . 


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:40 AM

It depends on the height relationship of the brake pedal (when fully depressed) to the accelerator. In this configuration you want the accelerator pedal at a height where it is easily accessible for the 'heel' blipping without requiring ankle gymnastics.

I found that once fully warmed up, the stock position of the LC GTR wasn't too far off the mark when braking really hard.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:40 AM

Is that because the brake fade meant you had to push it almost to the floor and it lined up better with the throttle ?


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:54 AM

Or if you we're using a cable you could use a hx/z cable and it sits flush with the brake.
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