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[xu2308]

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This 350Z Monaro, was Sold as well by Tender, interesting Note, they couldn't get Rego for it, was refused due to the Front of the Car, was Sold un-rego, makes me think GMH sold all the Experimental Engineering Machine's by the look of it.

[xu2308]

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And this one from Custom Rodder Magazine in 1982, the Editor answers with they were Sold

[xu2308]

Interesting you say a 308H Engine in Harry's L34, as Harry had a 308H Engine in the Yellow LC XU-1 V8 Prototype ?????

[yel327]

Nothing would get scrapped. The 350Z had never been registered, probably had its tags removed but still got tendered out. Even if they weren't able to be registered they'd get wrecked out by a dealer who also had a wrecking yard.

[yel327]

Interesting you say a 308H Engine in Harry's L34, as Harry had a 308H Engine in the Yellow LC XU-1 V8 Prototype ?????

Al, probably the engine out of the HG Bathurst car, possibly Harry had it in Barney as well.The HG had a full on 308 in it and a Muncie and rumours are one of Harry's cars had a V8 and Muncie. Possibly the dots join.......?

[xu2308]

The Pink LJ XU1 that Gene Cook moved to Tassy had a worked 308H Engine in it, and the Car Salesman from Bayside Motors said that the People they acquired the car from (Kevin Dennis Motors New Cars) said that HDT built it ?????????.

 

Yes there are story's that Harry was driving around in a Pink LJ, now was it the SMP LJ GTR Prototype, as it was at Harry's HDT HQ for the Calder Test and Ian Tate drove it for over 4 Weeks, and Barney has tell tale signs of been a V8, its sad the people that really know, wont open up about it, Brocky told me he has a signed confidential thingy with Harry, so my guess the confidential thingy and maybe out of respect to Harry is why the HDT Boys cant and don't tell

[crabba67]

Al,the gene cook car a 8/72 adelaide built, 8/9 month 1972 adelaide built the one,s to have. 

cheers

[xu2308]

It was a 8/1972 ADR Plated the Ex Gene Cook Pink XU1, but on the Warranty Records its Built on the 9/1972, one of the few with that crazy setup

[crabba67]

Al,yes 3:55 diff ? 25 cars built 9/72 plated 8/72.

Edited by crabba67, 25 February 2014 - 12:46 PM.

[yel327]

Nothing unusual about compliance month and completion month being different. My HJ Premier is 12/74 compliance completed 2/75. Heaps of cars are like this, esp if the ADR plate affixed on 31st and car went to finishing area and waited to monday 4th sept to be completed.
BUT delays in completion can also mean a car is delayed for some other reason, which might indicate something special. Might not too, might just need a touch up or stripes or blackouts added.

[crabba67]

yel327,you are correct in what you are saying,but is different in this case

cheers

[yel327]

Al, probably the engine out of the HG Bathurst car, possibly Harry had it in Barney as well.The HG had a full on 308 in it and a Muncie and rumours are one of Harry's cars had a V8 and Muncie. Possibly the dots join.......?

 

I just remembered, it was an M22 Saginaw in teh HG - the wider ratio one used in HK-HT 6cyl applications, not a Muncie. Still if Harry had a hipo 308 in a HG and had a 308H engine in an LC then it may be the same one.

[yel327]

yel327,you are correct in what you are saying,but is different in this case

cheers

 

For what reason? Remember also it appears GMH may have complianced cars earlier at ADR changes, I believe ALJ is replaced by BLJ on 1/9/72. So it makes sense that if cars are almost finished to compliance them as 8/72 even if they were a week away from completion to avoid retrofits. Plenty of 12/74 HJ's seem to be like this, as if it had 1/75 on the car they'd have to replace the tank and carby and add a canister and vapour lines and separators.

[xu2308]

Fiv Antoniou XU1 Book on the V8 LJ Prototypes, he says they were converted back to 6 Cyl and used as Engineering Hacks, no mention of been Destroyed in his book that was done in 1984, Lone o Ranger Prototype was sold in 6 Cyl format by tender  in Feb 1975 and I have no doubt the other two were Sold in mid to late 1974, by tender or in-house at GMH.

[xu2308]

 The M21 Muncie had a heavy duty shifter, as the XW7 Parts List says Heavy Duty Shifter for M21, no Aussie 4 Speed had a heavy duty shifter, my bet they were going to have  M21 Muncie 4 Speeds in these cars, I know the White GMH LJ GTR Prototype had a Muncie 4 Speed in it, as the service garage boss told a friend of mine that stopped to give him assistance, as the car had broke down in Port Melbourne, the service garage boss told him things about the car, and it had the Big XU2 Decals on the White car and twin fillers on it as well.

 

AL

Edited by xu2308, 25 February 2014 - 05:59 PM.

[crabba67]

yel327,ALJ is 1972 chassis and BLJ is 1973, the reason is the cars in question have a H252 head from 5/9/72with blocks before JP216 having E172 and 3:55 diff.yel327 you need to check the casting dates for the 3:55 diff and that's the answer ##h2

For what reason? Remember also it appears GMH may have complianced cars earlier at ADR changes, I believe ALJ is replaced by BLJ on 1/9/72. So it makes sense that if cars are almost finished to compliance them as 8/72 even if they were a week away from completion to avoid retrofits. Plenty of 12/74 HJ's seem to be like this, as if it had 1/75 on the car they'd have to replace the tank and carby and add a canister and vapour lines and separators.

[S pack]

For what reason? Remember also it appears GMH may have complianced cars earlier at ADR changes, I believe ALJ is replaced by BLJ on 1/9/72. So it makes sense that if cars are almost finished to compliance them as 8/72 even if they were a week away from completion to avoid retrofits. Plenty of 12/74 HJ's seem to be like this, as if it had 1/75 on the car they'd have to replace the tank and carby and add a canister and vapour lines and separators.

Byron, BLJ chassis prefix commenced mid/late December '72.

[crabba67]

Dave, spot on 6/12/72 adelaide change L223*** to L225***

[yel327]

OK, thought it may have happened at year change as this often happened. The ADR change often happened at the Xmas break as well.

 

Point remains though that there is nothing special about a car being completed the month after the compliance date for whatever reason. Cars may well be delayed waiting for parts, even special parts if that is what is being suggested here. But the discrepency in compliance date to what the warranty records state as the completion date is no indication that the car is special, just that it was either delayed or purposely complianced earlier.

 

The other interesting thing that does occur is at some assembly plants the VIN and ADR plates went on very late in the process, Pagewood for example. But at Acacia Ridge the VIN plate post HQ actually went on in the body plant before the car even hit the painting process. So when they were building bodies and attaching the VIN and BODY plates near the end of August (prior to the paint process) they had to predict when the car would be complianced as the ADR plate didn't get stamped with the chassis number numercial part and the build date/month until very late in the process. So if a car was delayed for some reason it'll get a 9/7x compliance date and the model-year letter code in the VIN for the previous year. I've seen this a few times when recording a Sandman.

[Pop's-SS]

Just aside from the technical bits, I thought I read some where that the colour of the PINK was similar to Strike Me Pink but was called Tipple Pink

 

Barry

[S pack]

Point remains though that there is nothing special about a car being completed the month after the compliance date for whatever reason. Cars may well be delayed waiting for parts, even special parts if that is what is being suggested here. But the discrepency in compliance date to what the warranty records state as the completion date is no indication that the car is special, just that it was either delayed or purposely complianced earlier.

Agree.

If people look at the warranty service records they will find examples of 4 cyl Torana's and 6cyl S & SL's (esp Adelaide) that have PSN's with completion dates that are way out of whack with the other PSN's around them. Maybe these cars also have compliance dates that are a month post or prior to the month of completion?

[crabba67]

dave,do you have a example and the amount of cars we are talking about not just one at a time?

cheers

Edited by crabba67, 25 February 2014 - 09:52 PM.

[S pack]

dave,do you have a example and the amount of cars we are talking about not just one at a time?

cheers

No, I merely noticed these anomalies when browsing the records. I haven't actually counted or recorded any of them.

[xu2308]

Just aside from the technical bits, I thought I read some where that the colour of the PINK was similar to Strike Me Pink but was called Tipple Pink

 

Barry

 

Tipple Pink was one of the Colours that Harry reckons he wanted for the V8 LJ's and arrange of other Harry Colour he wanted, I thought Styling did the Colours, not Harry.