37 replies to this topic

[StephenSLR]

Cheers, looks like I got my answer.

 

Just to be clear, I'm not going to nitpick it. I got the bill this afternoon for over $10k.

 

.... after regaining consciousness I just wanted to be sure there's no error of magnitude.

 

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[S pack]

To the end user prices are usually quoted including gst

TMK, if a business quotes a price for goods and/or services and doesn't stipulate whether the price is inclusive or exclusive of GST then it is to be taken that the price is inclusive of GST.

[Rockoz]

Only to the end user.

My wholesalers quote excluding GST. Always. Sometimes they mention plus GST sometimes not.

[dattoman]

I always quote without GST at work as thats how the trade works

Some like it including and retail expect it including

I want my figures without GST when dealing with my suppliers

 

And just to argue... List price is retail without the GST.

[StephenSLR]

just to argue... List price is retail without the GST.

 

In the USA everything is listed without GST.  I hated it when I'd scrounge up and finally get rid of all the loose one cent pieces and one dollar notes in my pocket to buy my burger and after the ka-chink of the cash register I see an extra 37 cents for tax and then have to break up a twenty dollar note only to end up with even more one cent pieces and one dollar notes.

 

Grrr!

 

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 01 March 2014 - 01:01 AM.

[dattoman]

In the USA everything is listed without GST.  I hated it when I'd scrounge up and finally get rid of all the loose one cent pieces and one dollar notes in my pocket to buy my burger and after the ka-chink of the cash register I see an extra 37 cents for tax and then have to break up a twenty dollar note only to end up with even more one cent pieces and one dollar notes.

 

Grrr!

 

 

s

 

Agreed

I hated that about the US

Go into subway for a $6 sub and turns into a $6.37 sub and a pocket full of shit change cause they still use 1c pieces

[Potta]

Just so you guys in the trade know, and probably already do, as an end user I just wanna know what its gonna cost me, I couldn't give a fr0ck how much GST I'm paying, and it really sh!ts me if I'm quoted a price and then have to pay extra because the price I was given was ex-GST.

 

And I can see why you would raise this question Steve, 10% of 10k isn't pocket change!

 

Not for most of us anyway.......

[StephenSLR]

And I can see why you would raise this question Steve, 10% of 10k isn't pocket change!

 

True, about half the work was labour though.  The guy recently separated from a partnership and started up a business on his own at a new location, more likely with new software, I'm one of his first customers and wanted to be sure all is in order.

 

The reason I went to him was for a hydraulic clutch with hydraulic throw out bearing which many didn't want to know about and he's done one before so I'm happy to pay if it gives me trouble free motoring.  He also did a diff upgrade and fixed a few other things.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 01 March 2014 - 06:03 AM.

[Dr Terry]

Just so you guys in the trade know, and probably already do, as an end user I just wanna know what its gonna cost me, I couldn't give a fr0ck how much GST I'm paying, and it really sh!ts me if I'm quoted a price and then have to pay extra because the price I was given was ex-GST.

The law is very clear on this. Any price quoted to a retail customer (i.e. the end user) MUST include GST.

If you get a quote & it doesn't say anything about GST you a legally correct in assuming the GST is already included. If someone tries to add GST to a price already quoted, the ATO would love to hear about it.

The only time prices without GST need to be know is from one ABN holder to the next one.

Having said that, the way this invoice is laid out seems normal & legal to me.

It appears that the problem in this case is the shock of the $10K price tag. Surely you had some idea of the cost of the job (including GST or not) before giving the go-ahead.

Dr Terry

[StephenSLR]

Having said that, the way this invoice is laid out seem normal & legal to me.

 

It appears that the problem in this case is the shock of the $10K price tag. Surely you had some idea of the cost of the job (including GST or not) before giving the go-ahead.

 

It was just a double check.  Yeah I was told of the cost of the parts throughout the job and I knew it was all adding up so I had an idea it would be high in the thousands.

 

Labour at $110 per hour (plus GST) was a little more than I was used to, it indeed all adds up.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 01 March 2014 - 02:43 PM.

[Dr Terry]

Labour at $110 per hour (plus GST) was a little more than I was used to, it indeed all adds up.

 

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In Sydney labour rates for quality mechanical work varies from around $85 to $145 per hour (+ GST) depending on the suburb & the size of the workshop. So $110 is around the average.

 

Dr Terry 

[StephenSLR]

In Sydney labour rates for quality mechanical work varies from around $85 to $145 per hour (+ GST) depending on the suburb & the size of the workshop. So $110 is around the average.

 

Dr Terry 

 

Yeah, my regular mechanic charges at the lower end, the guy that did my seat belts was only $60 per hour. 

 

I picked up the car yesterday morning, drove 25 km's or so, almost made it home when the clutch pedal hit the floor.

 

:(

 

The mechanic did say he warranted the work for 12 months and paid the additional km charge for the tow truck (NRMA paid the first 20kms) and I'm really grateful for that, now I feel the extra dollars are well spent.

 

Apart from that the car was driving beautifully, the 3.5 ratio diff felt really good, a lot less rattles from tightening up bits here and there.  He rang me when he got the car up on the hoist; seems to be a problem with the hydraulic throw out bearing, will pull the gearbox out this week to investigate.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 02 March 2014 - 07:54 AM.

[Redzone]

Shit I'm only charging $88 p/h inc gst, might be time to up the rate seeing as I'm working my ass off but not making any money.. Qld though, so don't earn as much as sydneysiders..