49 replies to this topic

[EunUCh]

Been able to buy it forever and a day up here along with most other gases,just need an account and $ for the rental they charge on the bottles these days.

[kiwi-lilj]

Do you mean gas or an actual cylinder ?

[76lxhatch]

The rental companies would have you believe that its not possible to own your bottles

[EunUCh]

As far as i know you buy the gas that is in "their" bottles then they charge you a rent fee for the bottle that is it in,who knows even if the gas mob own the bottle.

[kiwi-lilj]

I own this cute little refillable bottle.

 

 

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[EunUCh]

^ How did you talk them into letting you own the bottle?

[WhaleOilBeefHooked]

You purchase the gas and rent the bottle on a daily basis here in Sydney, Upon presenting the empty rental on that bottle is due, And within their rules not allowed to own the bottle......

Edited by WhaleOilBeefHooked, 18 August 2014 - 04:11 PM.

[Rockoz]

Check on ebay.

2 sizes/

 

 http://www.ebay.com....=item3a957e434a

 http://www.ebay.com....=item35d88f9991

[EunUCh]

Same here,daily basis then just pay rent for the number of days you had the bottle,must be a new company or something?

BOC don't let you own the bottle,CIG never did it and neither do Air Liquid.

Be nicer if you could "own' the bottle and forget the rental fee.

[76lxhatch]

A good reason to use straight CO2, gas itself is also cheaper to boot

[76lxhatch]

Yeah I'm sure someone will shoot me down about the straight CO2 but it works just fine for me, and I use it on a regular basis for a lot of different welding.

Bottle ownership isn't difficult with any type of gas, its just finding someone who will sell you a fill rather than demanding you hire their bottles instead. When you buy your own you do need to keep the testing current and clearly identified.

[EunUCh]

Uh huh,it comes down to beer gas  

I think i will check out if we get the speedygas options up here,some of the mob up this way don't know or care what options are 

available because they simply don't want to get involved...bit backwards from my way of thinking.

[RallyRed]

Bunnings SELL little Argon MIG bottles for about $38.

My neighbour is just about to give back his BOC hired ones and go this way.

They are only small bottles, but for weekend stuff, prob OK?

[EunUCh]

Tried one of those little ones first time round,ended up better off paying for an E2 size from BOC despite the rent. 

[mick_in_oz]

Speedgas will sell you a bottle, any size you like, and you own it and only pay for the refill, which it turns out they simply swap anyways.

 

The refill is dearer than through the normal companies where you have to rent a bottle.

 

Myself and the neighbour worked out that if you use a bottle a year its cheaper to rent, but it you use one every two or three years you will break even after a few years and then your ahead, that's for an E size Corgon or MIG mix.

 

Price off the top of my head is initial purchase for an E size full of gas about $580, and a refill at $180, as of earlier this year in SE QLD

 

Its easy to say its way too expensive at that price, but when you think back about the 15 years of bottle rental you have paid at best part of $200 per year its a no brainer for home use. For the past few years I've been paying just over $60/qtr or $240/yr in rental!

 

I now have an E size Speedgas bottle on my MIG...

[Bernie]

Try www.coregas.com   .They are giving the big guys a pain at the moment in WA .Prices have come down for a few people I know .

 

Bernie

[UCSLE]

How many years is there for the used by dates on the bottles ?