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#1 lakeside

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:57 PM

My wife is thinking of buying Toyota Kluger and she seems to think the fwd model will tow her horse float and horses. I think towing a float with fwd would be a little scary at times with the horses moving about. I want her to buy the awd model but she has been told by a car yard knob that fwd will tow no problems.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:09 PM

Get her to ask the Knob if he has horses,if he says yes tell him shove his head up one of there arses.

Then tell the Handbrake if she loves her horses to buy the AWD.


Just my opinion.............who has towed a few horse floats.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:46 PM

The 2WD and AWD Klugers are only rated to tow 2000 kg which would make them marginal for a dual float.



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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:53 PM

Better off getting a used Landcruiser for the same coin.

 

That's what Ah reckon!



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:16 AM

Hi....have done a fair bit of towing of  car trailers and caravans over the years.

 

Would suggest the 4WD version if the budget can do it.

 

4WD is good for towing as all 4 wheels are pulling forward when the trailer is being bad and trying to wobble around or whatever.( assuming the vehicle is constant/all wheel drive type)

Also, ( regardless of weight distribution hitches etc etc) there is always some weight transfer from the trailer to the towball ( measured as ""ball weight"" ) , this naturally unloads the front wheels a little/or a lot, depending on the setup.  Thus, one may find oneself sitting in a wet / dewy / rained on road/ grass paddock / pony club / or even street, with the car unable to move forward as it sits there wheelespinning.

 

I can clearly recall a good mate being in Port Maquarie NSW one day with a 16ft van on his new Camry.  Stopped on a hill , went for lunch, it rained....when he came out he was stuck there until the rain stopped and the road dried. Tried to take off...but just wheelspin ( couldn't reverse as there were people park  behind). Camry = sold. Prado = bought.

 

Go the 4WD if you can.....it also gives you the flexibility to go offroad / on the beach if that ever takes your fancy.

 

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Edited by RallyRed, 17 September 2014 - 07:17 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:59 AM

Would this type of AWD vehicle drive the front wheels all the time anyways unless they slip? The the rear wheels kick in?

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:04 AM

We use a 1991 AWD diesel Landcruiser for towing car trailer/bike trailer - awesome, never a drama



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:05 AM

What LS2LXHatch said is correct. I would look at something like Landcruiser or BT50 etc with 3500kg towing capacity. 



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:47 AM

I wouldnt tow a box trailer with a fwd car yet alone a horse float.

I can see it now, windy hilly rolling bit of highway, cruise control set, it kicks back a gear, spins the fronts...... Loose all steering, off the side of the hill.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 09:01 AM

I have towed a few Klugers out at the boat ramp with my r51 pathfinder diesel and find klugers tow well as long as they are out of gear 



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 09:29 AM

I thought the wife had your Hilux ? or is this a different wife ! :)



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 01:27 PM

I thought the wife had your Hilux ? or is this a different wife ! :)




One is enough and I'm taking my Hilux back.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 01:57 PM

Kluger AWD is the same as our RX350, they are FWD and the rears only work when needed. They do have a switch you can turn them into a locked up 4WD but it is for offroad only. System works well on the road but I wouldn't recommend it for towing. You'd be far better off with a V6 auto Landcruiser Prado or a 4.0L petrol Territory. Territory are a RWD and can tow 2300kg, and would be about the same price as a Kluger. Prado are part time 4WD (same as Hilux).



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 03:06 PM

Yel327....when you say Prados are part time 4wd?

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 06:26 PM

Mate, if it was me, I wouldn't tow anything that heavy with anything smaller than a Landcruiser.

When you consider the weight of the float plus 2 horses ,it can and usually does go wrong.

A good 2nd hand 80 series can be picked up for less than 10 grand. I would NOT let my wife do anything less.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 06:32 PM

I guess...what is the weight of the horse float + horses + any other payload.?

 

That may answer the question for you anyway....

 

p.s. from the caravan world , there is currently a BIG push by the NSW police and RTA (RMS) at the moment regarding pulling people over and checking the thing they are towing is within the  manufacturers limit for the tow vehicle.....



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 06:59 PM

definetly need a 4wd or a big heavy car my old man use to use a statesman caprice which are pretty solid vehicle.with a 2 horse float

.race horse vary in weight between 500-700 kg .your looking at around 2 1/2 ton weight behind and if they start playing up in there

they make the car move around quite a bit.been in the back with a stallion once to calm him down and i tell was not a nice place to be lol

friggin thing tried to kill me and i was screaming like big girl for him to stop haha.never again



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:22 PM

One is enough and I'm taking my Hilux back.


Lol, so you after the most dangerous tow vehicle imaginable... Yet convincingly big ?

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:45 PM

Oi, my Lux tows awesome....



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:52 PM

Oi, my Lux tows awesome....


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 09:16 PM

My wife is thinking of buying Toyota Kluger and she seems to think the fwd model will tow her horse float and horses. I think towing a float with fwd would be a little scary at times with the horses moving about. I want her to buy the awd model but she has been told by a car yard knob that fwd will tow no problems.

Car sales guys never lie to make a sale!

 

I have towed a few Klugers out at the boat ramp with my r51 pathfinder diesel and find klugers tow well as long as they are out of gear 

You funny bugger. I reckon you R51 would tow themjust fine if they are in gear.

 

Oi, my Lux tows awesome....

In the Cooper Basin they refer to them as Rolluxes. I had an auto on cruise control when I travelled over a section of corrigations and it tried hard to swap ends.



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 09:24 PM

Fair enough mate, for my particular useage in my particular region with my particular driving habits and my particular price range please recommend me a better vehicle...I'll sell my Lux tomorrow and buy whatever you suggest......

 

Cheers. 



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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:09 PM

I do a lot of towing (box trailers and loaded car trailers with my Mitsubishi 380 and the only time it's a problem is an uphill start. Gives a bit of wheelspin to get moving. Tow package is rated to 2500kg.


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:12 PM

What's a 380 ?

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:17 PM

One of those faggoty hybrids between a Camry and a Crysler 300






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