493 replies to this topic

[Potta]

Its a shame you don't feel like you can help anymore John.

 

I am very appreciative of the help you gave me along with Gene and Bazza and Dave who all gave me feedback before I spent my $$

 

I don't know where 327-Monaro gets the idea that we all have something to hide cause i certainly don't and I'm sure most of us don't. 

 

Once the charges are read in court all should be revealed, and this may have already happened, I dunno.

[bullitA9X]

Gee man thats the best rhyme ever.

you need to relax and do what we all need to do and thats wait, the guilty will get theres,,, i myself am like you nothing to hide and every car i have ever sold i have data and a video of,,, there as been re-shelled cars and top notch great cars but all have been sold for what they were and what they was worth,,
smart ass people are the reason why i never released all the info i have on the LC-LJ and be leave me there are quit a few,,, forensic and all the best gurus you want can go over the cars but i will bet you i can still eye out a fake,,
go into my user name, you will see i dont help no more.

good luck with it
cheers SONG GONG FROM WOOLONGONG THAT REALLY SHOULD BE SMOKING A BONG

John you funny fkuc you crack me up man cant understand for the life of me why people would hope or think you may be doing dodgy cars they obviously don't know you or how genuine of a guy you are ah well there loss mate....

[a9x868]

+1^
had the extreme pleasure of meeting john gong
while holidaying recently!

[N/A-PWR]

John Gong is a Real Person.

[meanmachine72]

yes I have allways marveled at johns work on all his  cars his rebuilt.. from stock standard to wild all first class looking and genuine cars

my family had the chance to stay with gong and his family at bonville, drove away amazed at his knowledge of the mighty little giant killer,

his also a generous man

 

don't worry about the new troll this thread has attracted john... I reckon its someone  else's duel account fishing for info mate

his been asked to put pics of his so called car collection up.. yet troll has not,

[71Ranger]

327-Monaro

I'm truly stunned by your obvious inflammatory comments

You have only been a member here for a short time so you either have no idea of the conduct expected on this community based forum with members that share a common passion or you have an axe to grind and have chosen to adopt an alias in order to do so.

I have travelled to John' s place and have nothing but admiration for him.

Cheers Brian

[shadey1963]

"met Brian" Sorry

[EunUCh]

It is a pity that this type of thing is still going on...the fraudsters are taking advantage of places like this through numerous "modern" techniques.

 

It is also a great shame that those who have gone to great lengths to make as possibly sure that they are getting the real thing through various 

channels of those who do have "the know" and friends etc.

 

Seems to be too many people getting ripped off for whatever type of car they buy or choose to buy.

It is not good for those that do have  a real one and that it is no wonder those that can tell will pull back on info. given out.

 

Even back in the 80"s (whatever they were) you could get tags for hardtops for 3k....Not so long ago from up this way (5-6 yrs roughly) there was a Exodus of

Valiants/Fords/Holdens all going south on trucks...don't know where they ended up exactly but they were going somewhere.

 

Seems like it is an Australia wide lucrative sideline and that the genuine buyer now need to be more aware...they are in for a quick buck these pricks.

Bloody sad really that it/"some Aussies" have turned bad and give the "game" a bad name".

[Statler]

Maybe I'll get my HT 350 4 speed Monaro back.

Only if it was a 6 cyl belmont. lol

[StephenSLR]

The biggest laugh is the local Holden dealer could verify the tags!

 

I contacted Holden via their website and received a .pdf authenticity letter stating the following:

 

Thank you for contacting Holden Customer Care regarding your 1976 Holden LX Torana
SLR 4 Door Sedan, Vehicle Identification Number – xxxxx

 

The following details are taken from our records.
MODEL: 1976 Holden LX Torana SLR 4 Door Sedan (8VD69)
ENGINE: 253 c.i. (4146cc) (L32)
ENGINE NUMBER: xxxxxxx
TRANSMISSION: 3.05:1 4 Speed Manual (M20)
AXLE: 3.08:1 Banjo Type (GU4)
BRAKES: Front Wheel Disc (JL2)
AIR-CONDITIONING: Non Fitment
PRODUCTION DATE: 30.09.76

Please note the above information reflects an example of one of our original build 1976
Holden LX Torana SLR 4 Door Sedan’s. However, this only reflects the ‘as built’ state of
your vehicle, according to the Vehicle Identification Number provided. Should you wish to
establish that the vehicle has the original components; it should undergo an independent
check for authenticity. This can be performed by most reputable car clubs.

 

If anyone here wants one; you just contact Holden, provide your VIN and they'll send you the info.

 

https://m.secure.hol...orms/contact-us

 

I notice they didn't provide the vehicle serial no. stamped on the chassis and when I replied to the email they stated: Please be advised that the letter of authenticity you received in our previous correspondence from Customer Care Specialist contained all information Holden has available for the VIN number you provided. Should you wish to discuss matters further, please do not hesitate to contact us on 1800 033 349, quoting the above mentioned reference number.

 

I left it at that.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 29 October 2014 - 07:33 AM.

[Litre8]

The only sure way is if you have owned the car since new... 

[Redzone]

Troll is right ...... didn't that dip sh@t with the Willow, also have a 327 coupe in the shed..... and carried on like a pork chop about Gong .. I don't know Gong personally, but he sounds like a Freken good bloke to me.... cheers Gong .. Ian

Spot on, I recall he did too.

[wot179]

He even posted pics.

 

Dunno if its him, though.

[Redslur]

^^^^^^^ Or buy a non badgd car and enjoy it for what it is, or you have made it :-) ^^^^^^^

[yel327]

I contacted Holden via their website and received a .pdf authenticity letter stating the following:

Thank you for contacting Holden Customer Care regarding your 1976 Holden LX Torana
SLR 4 Door Sedan, Vehicle Identification Number – xxxxx

The following details are taken from our records.
MODEL: 1976 Holden LX Torana SLR 4 Door Sedan (8VD69)
ENGINE: 253 c.i. (4146cc) (L32)
ENGINE NUMBER: xxxxxxx
TRANSMISSION: 3.05:1 4 Speed Manual (M20)
AXLE: 3.08:1 Banjo Type (GU4)
BRAKES: Front Wheel Disc (JL2)
AIR-CONDITIONING: Non Fitment
PRODUCTION DATE: 30.09.76

Please note the above information reflects an example of one of our original build 1976
Holden LX Torana SLR 4 Door Sedan’s. However, this only reflects the ‘as built’ state of
your vehicle, according to the Vehicle Identification Number provided. Should you wish to
establish that the vehicle has the original components; it should undergo an independent
check for authenticity. This can be performed by most reputable car clubs.

If anyone here wants one; you just contact Holden, provide your VIN and they'll send you the info.

https://m.secure.hol...orms/contact-us

I notice they didn't provide the vehicle serial no. stamped on the chassis and when I replied to the email they stated: Please be advised that the letter of authenticity you received in our previous correspondence from Customer Care Specialist contained all information Holden has available for the VIN number you provided. Should you wish to discuss matters further, please do not hesitate to contact us on 1800 033 349, quoting the above mentioned reference number.

I left it at that.

s

Spot on, a Holden dealer does not have that information, but GMH/Holden has exactly what they gave you for some cars. The info they have is the same as what people have for LC/LJ that incorrectly gets called a "VIN disc" or something like that. There is no chassis number recorded or colour/trim info. Other reports that contained further info were done (see the A9X report in Eric Blair's book), but only the Service/Warranty report was microfilmed which is what Holden would be reading your car's info off today. The LC/ J stuff around today is simply photos of a microfiche reader.

[StephenSLR]

The info they have is the same as what people have for LC/LJ that incorrectly gets called a "VIN disc" or something like that. There is no chassis number recorded or colour/trim info.

 

I notice that in NSW, my rego papers have the chassis number as the vehicle identifier as well as the engine no.  If you could access RTA records for the year of first registration and collate that with info from Holden you could match engine numbers from both sources to find out which chassis numbers came with which VIN's.

 

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[hanra]

QLD DOT only had records as far back as 1988.

[xu2308]

NSW have bad rego records, and under there private laws they are destroying them after a certain age

[xu2308]

And I guess a certain age they have been out of Rego under there Private-Destroying Laws