493 replies to this topic

[ls2lxhatch]

How would you ensure that the register did not contain re-birthed cars and re-stamped engines?

 

A public register would make it easier for people to rebirth cars and engines using one of the missing numbers.

[Rockoz]

Well I am thinking a register that contained all the cars produced to start with.

That appears to be pretty easy with the available resources for the LC LJ.

If the owner wished the car to be on the register it would need to be verified independently.

The only person allowed to access the details would be the owner registered.

Password protected.

Details of the car only released to the owner with verification by password.

Known dead cars would be noted as such with verification.

Enquiries regarding a specific car would be referenced back to the last registered owner before details released.

[StephenSLR]

The only person allowed to access the details would be the owner registered.

 

What if the legitimate owner bought a crapped out genuine shell and put the tags on a stolen replica?

 

I like the idea of a register; just looking at ways it can be foiled.

 

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[Rockoz]

Thats where the independent verification would come in I guess.

Im sure there are enough experts who can verify a car.

Combine it with the dodgy tag stuff as well.

It would be time consuming to set up, but once done wouldnt require much at all.

[StephenSLR]

I'm sure there are enough experts who can verify a car.

 

I contacted Holden and received a .pdf authenticity letter, at the bottom it read:

 

Should you wish to establish that the vehicle has the original components; it should undergo an independent
check for authenticity. This can be performed by most reputable car clubs.

 

We've started an SL/R register here;

http://www.gmh-toran...2-slr-register/

 

It's still very small but you gotta start somewhere

 

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[jd lj]

Perhaps a register of any cars known to no longer exist would be good. Keeping it honest may not be so easy.

It sucks that we all help each other with information about how our cars are meant to be from the factory, however this same information is then available to anyone with internet access and could then be used for the wrong reasons.

[WhiteA9XS]

 You,d need somebody pretty well respected and honest to keep a register of cars that kept the details close to there heart , Theres a couple here that come to mind , perhaps Bazza or S pack .

[Ice]

Innocent till proven guilty in this country Skap

[lx308]

Maybe he was a buyer, Skap

[lx308]

Yep, could be

[Tyre biter]

...A public register would make it easier for people to rebirth cars and engines using one of the missing numbers.

Or the opposite...

Just like covert ops having the philosophy about being hidden in plain sight, maybe by disclosing all the cars including their numbers would redact the ability of someone to pass off a copy.

If the list is in the public domain and includes rego and/or ownership, such an outcome attributes a given car to someone - the more the list is known, the more it might work in terms of deterrence.

Might also serve to assist with establishing provenance a-la; 'will the real slim-shady please stand up?'

Just an idea...

Cheers, TB

[Rockoz]

However it goes there will be people who will still buy something without checking.

Ive seen people come on here after they have bought a car that had been discussed extensively here about issues.

Then they find out they have been had.

This is a pretty easy forum to access.

 

And there are some people especially the little Torana guys who are very secretive about a lot of stuff.

For the little Toranas it would be worthwhile collecting the data on all 2 doors not just the GTRs.

Especially chassis numbers.

This way it would make it a lot harder to make false cars.

Pretty daunting task to get started.

[bullitA9X]

do you think the black 73 bath car is the one that is talked about here in this topic...
2014 gtr-xu1 nat pics

i know someone as already said this but there are alot more people that will be in shit once the fan starts turning..
sucked in suckers

cheers gong

Spot on gong they deserve everything they get and more....

[jd lj]

I assume that we can rule out any members that have commented on this thread so far as the guilty people are probably keeping a low profile for now.

[xu2308]

From DJ Conners reply in the Pink LJ Page, he is after photos of a Pink LJ XU1 and old members from the Old Victoria Car Club that might have photos of the Pink XU1 and he said its mixed up in this recent thing going on

Edited by xu2308, 28 September 2014 - 07:38 PM.

[RallyRed]

sad business....
Wonder how long before we see these things over here too....
Looks like you send them the details of your car ( right or wrong) and they send you back a 40 y.o. looking build sheet that replicates what you just sent them.
http://www.ebay.com/...=item41875d45a9