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#326 Bigfella237

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 10:32 AM

Thanks Laurie, I must've been thinking of something else?



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 04:12 PM

thank gosh! otherwise my fancy work with the carby would of been for naught!

and cheers on info andrew, 

have only hand tightened.. as waiting till had cleaned gunky manifold thread before ..glueing.

will just buy the tape and NOT overtighten (as, am positive would of taken to with spanner, saying ..."surely must screw in all the way! keep going")

 

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Boo! daughter needed money for her new car savings, as present car on last legs/constantly overheating

..there goes the $750 i had ONLY today fully accumulated for rubber kit! boo!

 

(am sure alike has happened to ..plenty.. of others here and can sympathize ;)

 

back to the drawing board on that one, darn it. (only $750 as didn't need pinch welds, boot rubber and lock grommets)

 

on lighter side, fuel barb reducer arrived in mail, and awaiting heater hoses set:)



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 06:59 PM

Keep plodding along dude...just do freebie or cheap things.

 

Helps to put up Wanted To Buy ads...get parts cheaper that way especially stuff most people usually throw out.

 

Know what you mean...my car budget is $0 just got bills from letterbox lol



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 07:13 PM

good idea gtr! i will put up a few ads to see whats available.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 07:26 PM

fluked the bolts, none snapped inside! (either, was one below empty as well) 

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tefloned bungs, done!

(might trim the bungs, one day.) 

 

 

sorry andrew, in regards to..

 

"Hopefully there is another large vacuum fitting under the front of the carb too, where the purple arrow is pointing? You can connect this to the charcoal canister. "

 

Nope.

 

"Assuming your charcoal canister only has two fittings, the second one will connect to the (steel) hard-line that runs back to the fuel tank (vent). If your canister is the later type with three fittings then I suggest trying to find an earlier one with only two (the third fitting was a float bowl vent on later carbies but yours has no provision for that)."

 

Nope. three. will look for one with 2 outlets.

(and a new carby whilst i'm at it?? as no 'large vacuum fitting under the front of the carb' to fit to front)

 

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also, gather that line i'm holding goes from canister to fuel tank.

 

and... as car was originally a bench manual... i have to buy that line that goes from manifold tree to the trimatic, as don't have one seems.

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the old girl

 

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is there a locking pin to hold shaft to pedal?

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 07:43 PM

Should be 2 pipes along chassis rail...short one near fuel pump & longer one 'tank' nozzle on cannister

 

2nd pic is brake pedal...rod etc should be attached to brake booster then pin slots through that hole to secure it.

 

1st pic is accelerator pedal...might be able to adapt commodore cable if cant get torana one or try what you have...ask peeps here for correct length.

 

 

Trimatic modulator pipe is name looking for..see if can get 6cy version for free or $5 then mod it to fit your engine also check if still have transmission fluid lines.

 

Those are sort of parts most people throw out lol



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 08:02 PM

If I were to hazard a guess I'd say that water pump / timing cover bolt was removed because the fan belt tensioner was attached to it?

 

You can't really trim those bungs, they are likely a tapered thread so cutting them off won't change how far they screw in, it would just mean they aren't held by so many threads?

 

Each one of those ports on the charcoal canister should be labelled (with labels moulded into the plastic), one will likely say "tank", another "carb", and I can't remember the other, something to do with the vacuum supply? The one labelled "tank" will connect to the steel hardline you're holding above, it normally just has a short right-angled hose on it. You can just blank-off the "carb" one (on later models it went to the float bowl vent on the carby). The vacuum one just needs to connect to anywhere that has vacuum on the inlet manifold so no need to buy another carby. The idea is that any fuel vapours from the tank will be absorbed by the charcoal, then sucked into the engine and burnt next time it's started.

 

That brake booster you have is from a late LX ('77 on) or UC with the solid bent shaft, hopefully the brake pedal you have came from the same otherwise the pin won't line up?



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 10:05 PM

cheers gtr,  have the two along rail. will now scout out "Trimatic modulator pipe" and fluid lines, as have neither.

wishful thinking to have, as engine and trans just plonked in as that's as far as previous-previous owner got.

 

couldn't see hole for pin, so was wondering. will have closer look.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 10:10 PM

cheers andrew  

"the fan belt tensioner was attached to it?" so i'm missing that?

 

and will leave the bungs alone. not hurting me none anyways.

 

"The one labelled "tank" will connect to the steel hardline you're holding"

 

can do. and will blank off "carb"

 

"The vacuum one just needs to connect to anywhere that has vacuum on the inlet manifold so no need to buy another carby. "

excellent news!

so??... one of the places i put the bung, and put back a tree?

or is another place viable?

 

hmmm, remains to be seen about brake pedal, was given with car.

will mount booster tomorrow and see.

 

is it just a case of just bolting in, or am i supposed to sikaflex etc or something fancy?


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:08 AM

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No I'm wrong again, looks like the fan belt tensioner goes on a lower bolt.



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:39 AM

If you are fitting the Holden power steering, (or if the motor was going in a Commodore), the alternator then goes to the other side.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 02:17 PM

Nah man early commo have alternators on drivers side..2 brackets non-air con alloy & much larger metal air con/alternator bracket.

 

Kingswoods & slightly different efi v8 have them on passenger.

 

No tensioners,you leaver alternator to belt tenssion you want then tighten bolt on lower bar thing.

 

All good anyway as spotted lh torry kit in one of his pics..carry on son!!!!

 

 

Another tip if already got alternator check it's 55amp if not source 85 amp vn-s v8 bosch (10 times better)



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 02:55 PM

No tensioners,you leaver alternator to belt tenssion you want then tighten bolt on lower bar thing.

 

That "lower bar thing" is what I'm calling a tensioner, it holds the tension on the belt so I call it a tensioner, I guess if you want to be technical, the parts catalog calls it a "BRACE - Generator"



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:07 PM

yep gtr, have new kit for drivers side in lx torry, ..which sucked cus the car came with lhs mounted

and comes with the brace in pack, so all good there andrew :spoton:(lower bolt, gotcha!)

wish i had power steering laurie! one day maybe

 

..not that i have an alternator 

will get the 85 gtr, cheers!

 

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heater hose kit came today, will fit and post pic


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:10 PM

AND air con, one day! 

bought a second hand one when spotted on ebay cheap as, aftermarket i think, will post pics of that too

might of been a good buy... might of been waste of money. far from sure, as yet



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:20 PM

and andrew, regadring the "carb" hose from canister, do i run the hose to the upright tree for vacuum, or which one?

or..

 

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as i ran the dizzy vac hose to the little valve on side of carb, (lhs in pic) it leaves No4 free.

but gtr, i think you said that hose might go from dizzy vac to No4

 

so, my apologies am checking again, was it supposed to go there on carb,

or from dizzy to number 4 vacuum nozzle? 

 

if is to little carb valve,

then leaves No4 free to run hose to "carb" point on canister?? 

doesn't it?? am hoping 


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:37 PM

be sure, fellas

i will indeed be posting a vid of moment first FIRING up engine, it EXPLODING into life.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:45 PM

Regarding the vacuum advance, there are two schools of thought apparently, the old school method is to run the vacuum advance straight off the manifold, but for this to work you really need an adjustable vac advance unit (which you don't have), the newer (pollution control) method is to connect it to the port on the carby.

 

The old school method gives you full advance at idle, the carby port gives you no additional advance at idle. The argument is that retarding the timing at idle helps burn exhaust gases better, or something like that, performance-wise it (apparently) makes bugger all difference.

 

The "CARB" port on the charcoal canister should be blocked off, the "TANK" port connects to the steel line running back to the tank, the third port (whatever it's called) needs a vacuum supply off the manifold.

 

It doesn't really matter where you connect it (I'd probably try to find a bigger fitting for your (4) port since that's not used for anything else), the only thing is that the vacuum source for the brake booster isn't supposed to be shared with anything else that draws vacuum, although the transmission modulator and vacuum gauge lines etc. won't really matter since they're closed circuits, but you don't want to share the brake booster fitting with the canister since the canister will leech off some of the vacuum.



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:05 PM

Nah man early commo have alternators on drivers side..2 brackets non-air con alloy & much larger metal air con/alternator bracket.

Darn it. Was thinking about my VN.



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:10 PM

That's half my trouble Laurie, too many different bloody models to remember what's what!



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:31 PM

so.. NOT off the upright tree running the booster, gotchya!

will buy a single? larger port and run off front bung hole

(might just use the double one i have for now, and block up the busted off second tip if poss) 

 

as for rest.. kinda went over my head.

shock horror! hahaha

 

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in the meantime

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another bit done!



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

as my last car was a ford laurie, i try to not get them mixed up around here on this site! haha

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blasphemy at it's worst


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

Original Utilux heater hose clamps. Nice.



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 04:47 PM

they sucked! too tight!. ...for my wussy hands anyways i tells ya

but gather right for the job:)



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:12 PM

Your vac. advance should work fine being connected to the take off on the carb. , it is ported within the carb. and only works at part

throttle opening when like just feathering the plates at cruise speed to pull in max advance on light loads.(also was supposed to help cover up a transition from idle to intermediate but that's another story , as long as it works).

 

You can block off #4 take off in the 1 & 4 runners.

 

In the 6 & 7 runners you can  block off the take offs not needed but keep the biggest one for line to brake booster , the other

small one goes to vac. mod. on trans.(or just fit a fitting with only the  2 take offs needed?).

 

Had a look at a couple of canisters , block off CARB. , TANK  as already stated goes to the wiggly steel tube that finds its way up there from the tank , the PURGE line might work directly to full vac. , only one way to find out ? , pretty sure it too was ported on carb. but could be wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 






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