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Posted 09 May 2017 - 05:02 PM

had been asked if had any more pics to show what came across when knocking back lx torana firewall, so am adding just for interests sake.

 

others might not need to send it back as far, 

..if smart enough to only put on 225/50's on front.. unlike my choice of 225/60's that are oversize/friggin huge.

 

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thick plate then re-welded from inside of car.

again, try not to start fires or cut wires.

(a hint i got from other thread was soak a rag in water and jam in there, where applicable)

 

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this pic below shows other side cut but not knocked back yet.. and

that can just nip off the welded metal to where points meet..

and tap in towards each other to have a new joining point to weld.

(no need to keep the excess as shown in pic above.)

 

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there are other threads showing the process too, and any variations. make sure to check them out.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:36 PM

new "lx" (bent brake booster shaft) put in, thanks to a pedal swap with a member doing opposite trans change!

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:39 PM

tapped out of pink into the yellow from ignition, so..

12 volts now being sent to dizzy.. i think

for when old dizzy swapped with the hei one

 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:43 PM

as car was a column manual, and now floor shift auto.. suspect these two light green and dark greens are meant to go together.

 

 

mounted on the column are the existing/original wiring

and wires on right are from the shifter loom

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still unsure of the purples and grey. looked but still not making sense/jumping out at me where they go.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:48 PM

as for kick down wiring/power.. hazarding a guess can tap from the fuse (in part) designated for "kickdown"

then send in/out of kickdown switch.. and run to kickdown terminal on trans.

 

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:40 PM

The green loom and purple are for neutral start and reverse lights



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Posted 12 May 2017 - 11:41 AM

Grey is shift light in consul, 2 greens are for reverse lights, purple is neutral park.



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Posted 12 May 2017 - 06:43 PM

cheers for info fellars! more knowledge than i had and gives me a place to start. will look at some more wiring diagrams to see if can make sense of



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Posted 13 May 2017 - 10:00 AM

 

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as none of this can be done wrong.. am getting an auto elec in to finish this for me. 

hopefully next post will be with this all correctly done. hopefully.


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Posted 13 May 2017 - 10:18 AM

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 06:35 PM

This may help.

Go to General LH-LX-UC

Wiring up inhibitor switch

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 08:52 PM

cheers victor, will check it out



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Posted 13 May 2017 - 10:00 PM

http://www.gmh-toran...hibitor-switch/

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 11:21 AM

(couldn't understand a lot of what being discussed in threads, am still going to get someone in to help with this)
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the wiring diagram i posted above is matches my car in some ways, but not others.
and
same with this lx wiring diagram.
neither identicle.
as best i can gather anyways.

am just playing/learning/vomiting..
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and this is way seems to be in my car
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and this is what wiring diagram says should be.
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Posted 14 May 2017 - 02:11 PM

According to that can splice orange wire into either pink wire near thumb for kickdown switch then another wire to auto

 

Still got manual plug in loom when bought the car?

Did auto plug in loom come with your trimatic shifter?

Missing both?

 

If not will have to extend from bottom of steering column the purple solenoid starter wires,the green reverse wires & grey illumonation wire.

 

Put up pic in post #504 then next to it pic of your shifter with black inhibitor at base..will label it for ya.



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:54 PM

cheers for the help gtr!

 

kick down thought actually could do, but for all i know there was a reason couldn't just tap into the pink at "kickd/emissions" fuse/lower pink.

will run an orange to the kickdown, and an orange out to trans kickdown. 

 

(but, as of right now am still unsure if towards front of car is "in" and towards rear is "out" on the kickdown pedal switch. will look to see if marked.)

 

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no manual loom ?? i got the engine loom, 6cyl with car, is that what mean?

 

and

i bought my shifter loom new off ebay.

 

here it is plugged into my shifter, (with the ?grey? lamp wire hiding in pic, and black earth to chassis.)

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and the other end.

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i think (as car was column shift manual)..

from what you are saying ..

that i CUT the light and dark green wires that are plugged into the column base, and join to the ones from shifter.

(both plugs are female so cant just plug together.)

 

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that just leaves the double purple

and

the grey

 

are you saying they should be here somewhere at column base also?

(as best can tell.. only the greens are coming out from bottom of steering column. no purples or greys visible)


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Posted 14 May 2017 - 04:57 PM

or.. two purples and grey go here somewhere.

 

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or here??

the loom that seems to run to rear of car

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 05:02 PM

and to just add fuel to the fire..

googleing/ebaying "reverse switch"? loom/wiring comes up with no info.

 

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so am at a loss as to what plugs in here and from where, too.



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 05:51 PM

Firstly the reverse light wiring, this is your OLD reverse switch...

 

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...and this is your NEW reverse switch...

 

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...simply connect the two green wires from the console switch, to the two green wires on your old column switch. You can leave the old column switch there (just disconnected) or you could swap the whole column out for a floor shift column if you want to, it makes no difference to the operation.

 

Next is the starter inhibitor circuit (the two purple wires): Somewhere in your wiring loom there will be a connector that matches the one above (with two purple wires), it will have a "jumper connector" already plugged into it, which you disconnect, and then connect the short harness from your console to it.

 

Most likely it will be taped up in the loom somewhere close to the reverse light wiring, if you can't find it, try to follow the purple wire from the ignition switch and see where it goes, the connector will "interrupt" this purple starter wire, breaking the circuit.

 

Both of these circuits are very simple: if you join the two green wires together, the reverse lights come on; if you disconnect the two purple wires, the starter won't work.

 

The grey wire is for the little bulb under the console that lights up the "PRND21" strip. This simply needs to connect to one of the other grey wires behind the instrument panel, which originate from the back of the headlight switch. There may well be a connector somewhere already that it's meant to be plugged into, but I can't remember off hand?

 

As for the kickdown switch, I doubt that it matters which way around the wires connect to it, but if so they will be marked on the switch (I can't lay me hands on one to check).

 

That last switch on the back of the trans is not used in your application, just leave it disconnected.



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Posted 14 May 2017 - 06:40 PM

 
"That last switch on the back of the trans is not used in your application, just leave it disconnected."
 
kindest words ever spoken. 
hahaha
 
much much appreciated andrew.
 
will do some green joining, 
and some purple plug and grey hunting tomorrow arvo.
 
will indeed be following purple to locate/trace, as couldn't see "double purple" (or much of anything!) when stuck head under earlier.
will try harder.
 
and a plug to undo and just plug into would be swwwwweet!
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am going the cheap option for now, leaving the original column shift steering column in.
took the ol' angle grinder to the shifter lever.. and put on a new blank/auto plastic shroud, ..and ignoring the shift rods out the bottom in engine bay.
 
professional?? you bet! lol


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Posted 14 May 2017 - 06:50 PM

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hmm, guess i can PLUG in my grey just BELOW the almost hiding grey on upper left,

 

looks??? like its connected to same "power"/terminal as the grey above (marked "instrument lights" fuse)

 

.. and might just be left free/ready for use for cars with an auto loom.

???



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 11:20 AM

well, i achieved very little.
even with taking the dash apart

couldn't find a bump under loom tape to indicate "jumper connector"
(which would be the easier way to locate, rather than cutting loom tape off to expose)

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at this point.. splits off into
-headlight switch loom
-engine loom
-fuses loom

got hopes up when saw this.. but is purple and blue..
and, probably needed! lol (whatever the frick it is)

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Edited by livo74, 15 May 2017 - 11:22 AM.


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 12:02 PM

That's blinker can/relay in your hand haha

 

Kickdown is just a switch...one side will be powered once floor pedal switch makes a circuit so power flows throw other wire to detent on auto.

 

Bigfella is spot-on for reverse lights simply join white plug to black plug..simple female connector crimped on will do.

 

Yeah assumed it was column by pic.

 

1st pic #522 thick purple in middle if that's ignition switch that's the wire you want....trace it down to where can get easier access to under dash...need to cut it crimp on plugs to connect it to you black plug with purple wires.

 

One thing at a time,bit by bit...remember that!!!!


Edited by gtrboyy, 15 May 2017 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 12:45 PM

Try this

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 12:56 PM

think i understand, gtr.

as i failed miserably to locate the jumper connector andrew mentioned

 

 

plan b.

cut my thick purple, (anywhere can access)

which leaves me with TWO open ends,

and join my two shift loom purples to those. (will probably be just cutting and joining, as dont have access to the matching connector)

 

..and therefore power only gets fed through.. when car is in park and connection made, i gather? 

 

 

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cheers victor, will see if have got my head around what gtr's saying and take a look now too!

 

http://www.gmh-toran...r-switch-wires/

 

"I doubt you will find any wires to run to the inhibitor switch on your tbar. The wiring diagram shows the wire going to the starter solenoid as a straight through wire in the manual setup You will have to cut into the solenoid purple wire, either on the interior side or engine side of firewall, and using extra wire run the ends to your inhibitor switch so it controls when the solenoid can be activated.

 
In regards to the kickdown switch for the auto, it would appear that there is no dual orange connector already there near the accelerator bracket?, (I never noticed whether they included it there on the manual torries Ive owned) All you need to do is add another wire to the "tell tales/backup" terminal on the fuse panel and run this to the switch on the accelerator bracket, then run the wire from the switch to the tranny. "
 
----basically what the boys have told me to do.. and i am taking my sweet sweet time understanding and actually doing lol

Edited by livo74, 15 May 2017 - 01:02 PM.





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