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[MR77LX]

Hi Guys, 

 

Does anyone have any instructions on replacing headlining on a LX torana sedan. 

 

I have a new headliner ready to go. I have taken out the old rods and put them in the new liner. 

 

There are 2 holes on each mounting point. Which hole do the rods go into? 

 

Also in regards to gluing, do you glue all around the liner? 

 

Thanks 

 

[torana_nick]

Hi mate there is a good write up on c&g auto website. I did mine and I had never done one before took some trial and error but got there in the end.

http://cgautoupholst...265531fdf0554c1

[Swarbs]

I used old pinchweld to hold things in place as i pulled everything tight

 

From memory start front and rear then sides

 

Put the screws for Hand grips, visors, rear vision mirror in first before install  - makes the holes easy to find once it is all tight  and just burn quietly through the lining with a soldering iron on top of the screws and the holes will be in the right place

[MR77LX]

How about the glue bit? Do u put the glue only on the sides and rear? Do u put any glue
On the centre of the roof lining?

[Swarbs]

No glue is needed in the middle  - just around the top of both screens and doors

Get it all tiggedy boo before glueing

Top holes BTW from memory

 

Patience is the key

[MR77LX]

Thanks mate. I will see how i go. 

[BENN0]

Day two of roof lining shenanigans is not treating me well!

 

Its an LX 4 door. New black vinyl lining.

Transferred rods/wires from old lining into new lining (Putting them in the same location they came from)

The rods are in a mix of bottom and top holes. Couldnt get the front rods into the top holes. The rod would foul the roof and wouldnt let the liner rotate to where it needed to be. It seems a lot more comfortable in the bottom hole. 

Wires in no problem. 

 

The issue I have is trying to pull it tight to have the pinch weld hold it in position. I cant seem to get it tight without bunching. The gloss black vinyl is not helping hide anything either. 

Other issue is the sheer amount of extra material on this liner. I dont want to start cutting yet as without having everything in its ideal position, I dont want to risk cutting around curves that are not correct. 

 

The question: How tight do you pull the liner into position? I started at the front/centre and worked out to the edges. Then did the front doors, rear screen area, then rear doors. Its been in and out a few times and im ready to stick left over carpet to the roof and call it quits!!!

 

Follow up questions relate to the A and B piller. How and where does the liner finish? Again, plenty of excess material making it tricky to work out.

 

Cheers

[BENN0]

Another 4 hour attempt yesterday. Ended up in the same position. Rods/wires in place and happy, head liner pulled tight but looking like crap. C piller section is a disaster.....

 

I think the sheer amount of extra material is hindering the progress. I will take the liner out again, sit the old liner on top of it and cut away the mountains of excess (still leaving enough for plenty of overlap and so it can be pulled tight)

Will take some photos tonight. But when pulled "tight" it looks worse than the "before" pics on the C&G website (before its pulled tight)

[Swarbs]

Patience Benno 

Get the main roof section right first  - then worry about the C pillars

 

Front to rear (or visa vis) and then the sides

 

Bang some pics up of the prob if need be 

[BENN0]

Third weekend of project headliner... Still no luck. Its been in and out a number of times, tried all combinations of top and bottom holes and the best it looks is the photos below. Sub par at best. 

 

Front  pulled in tight.

 

 

The rear looks like a disaster. Where it wants to run down the C pillar is a nightmare. (Also, that isnt my writing on the centre section of the liner.....)

 

Im semi convinced this headliner isnt even the right shape. Its nice and tight between the wires (where you can see the written numbers) but it doesnt seem to want to sit right anywhere else.

[hanra]

Who supplied it?

[torana_nick]

I struggled doing mine as well I had the same issues but you realy need to pull it and use alot of pinch weld around the corners. You can always try a different approach and pull the sides tight first then back and front.

[BENN0]

Don't want to name the supplier yet. It might be my issue (Not too sure about that)

I will give another go for a day. If its still no good I will try an alternate supplier.

 

The pics above of the front sections are with it pulled tight. Maybe im not pulling it tight enough? 

[boomfunk]

woa thats terrible - you should maybe using a pro to fit it - though there are who have never and have fitted one

 

s said above -also check you have centered the headlining in the car - if its hanging more one side to the other you will never get it to sit right.. dont go by the material hanging down - look on the backside where the calico listing is.. if its equal amount on each side then you know its centred.. go back and check this

 

hanra do you have any pics of ours when you were fitting it?.. that might help

[hanra]

Ill have pics somewhere of they one you supplied. It was my first time, patience and plenty of pinch weld off cuts, and fitted perfectly.

[boomfunk]

Hanra - i remember you took a heap of pics when you were installing it.. yours took 2 days on and off or there abouts

 

 

just doesnt seem its centered correctly - thats really the only thing will cause it to do what its doing, if its not centered it wont follow the curve of the bow/hence getting wrinkles - more wrinkles that a rolly dog!!

 

the photo of the front.. you can see it kinda getting there

 

100% check the back of the headlining to make sure you have equal lengths of the calico listing from one side to other.. i bet you its not centered (for the rear section)

[BENN0]

Ok. I will pull it all out, measure each wire/rod position and ensure they are all centered, mark the underside of the headliner and ensure it sits in the center of the vehicle at each attachment point. 

 

Just to confirm installation method: I have been installing the liner from front to back. Front rod in first, then the wire, working toward the back of the car. 

Next steps were to pull the front tight around the windscreen opening (using pinch weld to hold in position)

Pull the rear tight around the rear screen opening (using pinch weld to hold in position)

Lastly working on the sides (starting at the front drivers side, then front passenger, working towards the rear) Plenty of pinch weld used along the way. 

[boomfunk]

another thing to take into consideration.. if its over stretched to the point of nearly tearing- dont over stretch it as it can go  out of shape

 

the method everyone will use something different - but getting the calico part center (holds the bows) is so important

 

If you dont center the calico on the bow you be waiting till the cows come home, then you can follow with your eye the shape - you dont even have to have it clamped down just follow the curves with your finger

 

If it curves around then you know it will work if you have it pulled into shape with equal force from each side

 

yes i would take the sides / back down to check and possibly re position

 

you always fit the wires in the center first - thats how i do it and i would imagine most would

 

wires because they are fixed.. the headlining wont move once the tabs are bent over.. so start there making sure equal amount of calico each side, then go either forward or back.. either way the center section wont move as tabs are holding

 

you should be able to pull the headlining at the front of the car in the middle with 2 fingers to see how the curve is

 

 

 

different material also varies the fitting - velour easiest by far to fit..it stretches - the herringbone ribbed can be slightly easier also.. a material with no stretch at all makes you work to fit it

[BENN0]

No luck. Measured everything up, marked the middle of the calico and the middle of the underside of the roof. Installed everything central (wires and rods to calico middle, calico to the middle of the roof). It still looks puss. 

I'm going to chuck this headliner out and try a herringbone ribbed from another supplier. 

This is the best I could get it. You can see that is just doesn't sit right in a few sections. Its bunching around a few of the stitch joins even when the its out of the car.