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#326 Indy Orange

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 06:58 PM

They are not "SL/E" rims. They are Rally rims, they replaced the steel rally rims used on HQ-early HZ, normally had option code N67. Optional in various sizes and stud patterns on almost all Holden, Gemini and Torana and even seen on Statesman. Standard on Sandman, Gypsy, GTS, SL/E, VB Euro pack etc.
 

I know they are not "SL/E " rims but UC SL/E had them.

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 07:00 PM

Yeah, you could "option up" the lesser models in the LX's.

I had a 12/77 LX SL 4.2lt Auto that was optioned up with the;

Sports dash,

SS one piece spoiler,

heated rear window,

Dual Exhaust,

SLR Wheel Trims and

H4 Headlights



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 07:16 PM

Yeah, you could "option up" the lesser models in the LX's.
I had a 12/77 LX SL 4.2lt Auto that was optioned up with the;
Sports dash,
SS one piece spoiler,
heated rear window,
Dual Exhaust,
SLR Wheel Trims and
H4 Headlights

Me to Mick no spoiler though

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 07:32 PM

I have spoken to a few people that optioned up there S or SL toranas to save on paying higher insurance premiums that a sports model would have cost them. cheers Aaron

Edited by imj411, 18 August 2015 - 07:32 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:14 PM

Fact or Fiction...

 

There were a qty of LX 'S' Sedans that were optioned with 5.0lt engines?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:46 PM

I wasn't 100% sure about the options for combined instruments in the bigger Torana so refrained from making comment.

 


I had a 1977 LX Torana 'S' 4-Door 4.2 V8 4 Speed and it had a Factory SLR Tacho and Speedo etc. when I bought the Car from Motors Burnie, a young bloke owned it but his Parents bought it for him from brand knew and it was ordered with the SLR Tacho and Speedo etc, Even had a twin system.

 

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Edited by xu2308, 18 August 2015 - 08:48 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:49 PM

I have spoken to a few people that optioned up there S or SL toranas to save on paying higher insurance premiums that a sports model would have cost them. cheers Aaron

 

That seems to be a common theme in the 70's. There are a fair number of non-Sandman, non-GTS sedan, non-GTS coupe Holdens in L31 M21 guise (like Kingswood sedan, ute or even HQ Monaro (Kingswood coupe)), the primary reason seems to be Insurance was a LOT cheaper on these. I imagine the L31 non-SLR's Mick is alluding to were for the same reason.
 



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 09:20 PM

More to follow about these cars....



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:04 PM

f or f ? the LH-LX Torana was the only Australian made car that had a "variant" of 4/6/8 cylinder engines?..or even in the world for that matter?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:08 PM

Commodore did too?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:10 PM

I'll say fiction. Surly others had 4 6 8 cylinders?

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:11 PM

also the falcon ?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:13 PM

a 4 cylinder Falcon?

 

Worst day in Holden's history was Ted Bullpit swapping the Kingswood for a Commodore 4



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:14 PM

2013 eco boost thing



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:17 PM

F or F
Was the lj ever produced locally in south Korea as a Chevrolet 1700?

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:17 PM

Mondeo engine wasn't it?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:22 PM

dont know , did they still have the eights at that time ?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 10:31 PM

Looks like http://www.ford.com....module-features

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:19 PM

F or F
Was the lj ever produced locally in south Korea as a Chevrolet 1700?

 

Yes there was a Chevrolet 1700 very similar to LJ, not sure if it was built in South Korea though.

 

I'll say Fact but don't really know.

 

I wonder if that is where the left handed variants were produced?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:43 PM

Yes there was a Chevrolet 1700 very similar to LJ, not sure if it was built in South Korea though.

 

I'll say Fact but don't really know.

 

I wonder if that is where the left handed variants were produced?

Made in South Korea by General Motors Korea (aka Daewoo). http://www.automobil...woo-ties-81321/


Edited by S pack, 18 August 2015 - 11:44 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 12:00 AM

I call bullshit on this one !!

 

I realise about the blunder concerning the height of the from blinker being too low, (12-15mm IIRC), & this was for all versions the LH. So really this was only important for the lowest height cars in the range, maybe the SL/R & the SL/R5000. But was the L34 this same low height ?

 

I don't have its official overall height spec. handy, but is the L34 as low as a regular SL/R given its 14-inch wheels & heavy duty springs.

 

The front spoiler tooling would've been based on the 'normal' SL/R5000 item.

 

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The original post is fiction and Dr Terry's call is correct. The original error in blinker height was detected prior to SOP and the shape of the blinker lens was modified to effectively raise the front face and so meet the ADR requirement. The attachment location was then raised after SOP as you all know. Holden would not knowingly release a vehicle into production that did not meet ADR.



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 12:38 AM

The original post is fiction and Dr Terry's call is correct. The original error in blinker height was detected prior to SOP and the shape of the blinker lens was modified to effectively raise the front face and so meet the ADR requirement. The attachment location was then raised after SOP as you all know. Holden would not knowingly release a vehicle into production that did not meet ADR.

You know what, I have never thought about what Dr Terry mentioned about ride heights and he may well be correct. To be honest I'm not that worried if I was wrong.

You do have me interested in what you say about the blinker lense shape change / modification. How did the lense change?? Never heard that before. Can you fill me in on how that happened and when?

Edited by eyepeeler, 19 August 2015 - 12:39 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 07:55 AM

I thought GMH fixed the front indicator issue on the LH Torana by raising the mounting height of the indicator assy on the valance panel during production of the LH?



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 08:44 AM

Yes there was a Chevrolet 1700 very similar to LJ, not sure if it was built in South Korea though.

 

I'll say Fact but don't really know.

 

I wonder if that is where the left handed variants were produced?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if all LHD HK-HG Holdens and LHD Toranas were produced at one of the GMH plants in a LHD Country. I think they had a plant in the Philippines and maybe Korea which are both LHD. If not maybe one of the Asian RHD countries that assembled GMH product like Thailand or Malaysia. The LHD HK-HG's that went to Hawaii and parts of Europe (maybe Greece) may well have come from Asia. 



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 10:12 AM

Holden, at varying times in their history had CKD assembly plants in New Zealand, Sth Africa, The Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan & Trinidad & Tobago.

 

All these plants are now long gone, but more recently there was one set up in China to assemble the late model Statemans & Caprices as the Buick Park Avenue.

 

The Sth Korean Shinjin/Saehan/Daewoo project was not controlled by GM-H, but they did supply tooling etc. Most of the driveline was not Holden stuff as it would've been in all of their CKD plants.

 

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