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[madtoranajzedded]

hmm.looks like some improvement can be had.just by looking inner balljoint is not inline with the ca's .inner mounting bolts.

other side is the same.both wheels are straight

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[StephenSLR]

You may also want to do a bit of research before committing, perhaps have a read of this:

 

http://www.gmh-toran...and-bump-steer/

 

You could ask any questions in the thread or maybe even start a thread dedicated to LJ racks & bump steer; see what the brains trust here comes up with and to be sure you're on the right track before making any permanent mods.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 08 December 2015 - 12:34 PM.

[madtoranajzedded]

Thanks Steve.truthfully im not too fazed how the geometry is in the j .im just hoping when Peter gets back that his isnt any shorter really.

she  will only go to shows and i doubt the bumpteer wont have any effect on the handling going over the 1/4 mile..if i ever finish it that is 

 

 

were ant toranas imported to spain? as i might ask K5 if he knows of any in the area.thats a first time ive ever seen a commo 2 dr sedan

he looking for an rear axle and struggling to find one haha.

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 08 December 2015 - 12:41 PM.

[StephenSLR]

Some more reading.

 

 

Note: The ratio of a/b should be equal to c/d.

 

http://www.super7thh...ary/bump-steer/

 

https://books.google...p steer&f=false

 

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[StephenSLR]

she will only go to shows and i doubt the bumpsteer won't have any effect on the handling going over the 1/4 mile

 

Ah, of course, design it to the conditions you plan to use it; I was thinking you were designing for racing hence the reasoning for LHD, weight distribution, etc.

 

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[madtoranajzedded]

Well i could steve.and have her as an all rounder..but then i'll be changing the upper lower control arms to adjustable tube design.

and the list gets bigger to do  i would never finish it lol.im battling now  haha

 

i really shouldnt be doing what i am doing really .but i like to be different  

[N/A-PWR]

as DJ said,

 

You want it like this throughout the suspension movement, otherwise you will be contacting something:-

 

[N/A-PWR]

https://en.wikipedia...bone_suspension

[madtoranajzedded]

Thats pretty cool Dave.that heavy duty swaybar is flexing abit haha. i dont think those guys in UK are going to measure there racks for me.

or the dude who put a pic up of his spare .they all must have a life lol...i cant do much more.Peter must have a lfe also.im not too worried

though .there is always a plan b.c d .

 

I do know what you mean DJ .if its the same as original it shouldnt be too bad.what do you think of where the inner balljoint on rack is in the pic, should be longer?

 

 

What was that  Spack ,NA PWR on the rack earlier in thread.the pinion has to be on the Top or something.

i cant turn it upside down then if i used it?

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 10 December 2015 - 01:50 AM.

[madtoranajzedded]

Well looks like plan A,B, is not going to come to fruitition.im a very impatient person  .soo im not going to wait for them to take ages to get back.

 

ive taken your advice DJ and have looked at a few racks in states.

 

Have had small discussion with Chris Alston from Chassisworks in Sacremento Ca about his manual racks which look the gooods.

 

they offer 15 different pivot widths along with 2 types of mounts suitable for my application.also have kits for bumsteer

 

i cant do linky   can anyone put it up for me .have a read and  see what yous guys reckon

 

   its   http://www.cachassis...manual.aspx    

 

 

hmm buggered if i no.comes up as error

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 12 December 2015 - 06:35 PM.

[N/A-PWR]

https://www.cachassi...ine-manual.aspx

 

Maz, you had 3 blank spaces after the link address,

 

so when that link opens, you just delete them and click enter and she works. 

i cant do linky   can anyone put it up for me .have a read and  see what yous guys reckon

 

   its   http://www.cachassis...-manual.aspx   

Edited by NA-PWR, 12 December 2015 - 06:32 PM.

[madtoranajzedded]

i just typed the whole lot what chris gave me  http:www.cachassisworks blah blah blah straight on here and it changed it and made it shorter

 

anyways thanks for putting it up bud...what do you think?

 

others i seen had fixed mounts on racks.this was the only i seen(there would be others) where you can turn rack to get it in the position you want

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 12 December 2015 - 07:03 PM.

[madtoranajzedded]

i asked him another question on length. where he states that the rack can be had in lengths from 15.5 to 29.5 in inch increments

 

as i wanted it in 20 1/4 which is 514.4  thats pretty close to original specs   20 1/2 is 520.7  5mm more.

 

would this mean i will have to change the height of rack to compensate for the extra length?

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 12 December 2015 - 07:44 PM.

[N/A-PWR]

 

Hi Maz,

 

I copied my other post and changed a few words.

 

 

If it was me, I would take the springs out of the wishbone and reassemble,

 

hold a steering rod at a position that a rack ball joint length you have in mind would be at driving straight,

 

then use a jack to raise and lower the wheel to their full limits,

 

to see the forward wheel alignment changes.

 

That will give you the changes to work with, also One(1) degree of wheel movement is acceptable.

 

 

This way you will see what height the rack changes will do per ball centre changes.

 

 

As said earlier, Holden would of spent Millions getting the 515mm ball and rack centre to centre right.

[madtoranajzedded]

she should be right Dave.chris just said raise it slightly and use the bumpsteer adjustable tie rod end kit to fine tune,as its less than 3mm ea side .i dont think i will get another rack any closer unless i get a custom made one.

 

peter in Toronto got back with a rough drawing of his rack and its def not gonna fit .he never done the important measurement as he didnt see my pic till he had allready done his drawing.. .but going by his rack housing its

longer than what it is between lj balljoints lol.

 

 

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[Uncle Chop Chop]

I have a Mustang LHD and it's pretty cool; there's a couple of hitches; if you want to overtake a large vehicle you have to double & triple check, better safe than sorry and when you're on a Y section of road and have to turn left into the bottom of the Y so to speak; the passenger (right) rear pillar presents a blind spot.
 
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What year is the Mustang and is the rack in front of, or behind the wheels?

[N/A-PWR]

Hey All,

 

Dumb me just worked out why the pinion is below the rack when bolted at the front of the wishbone,

 

and the pinion is at the top of the rack when bolted behind the wishbone.

 

Which is also why we cannot flip a RHD rack over to be a LHD rack.

 

Answer:- the steering will steer the opposite way.

 

 

Dave 'S Pack' did say about where the pinion was in an earlier post, but I never clicked till now. 

[Uncle Chop Chop]

Dave, you're not the first and won't be the last to make that mistake.

[N/A-PWR]

Thank-you Vick for your fast response,

 

as I was working out how to make a reversed (Mirror Image) LC Torana steering rack housing,

 

to put all the parts in, when suddenly I seen the light. 

Dave, you're not the first and won't be the last to make that mistake.

[madtoranajzedded]

hahahaha.i never see the light Dave .too dark down here .so whats the go with the fella saying he has a commo rack in his torrie lhd

 

are they completely different internally.

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 24 December 2015 - 10:19 PM.

[N/A-PWR]

Did a Mirror Image for you Maz:-

 

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[StephenSLR]

What year is the Mustang and is the rack in front of, or behind the wheels?

 

1965 Fastback

 

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[madtoranajzedded]

Did a Mirror Image for you Maz:-

 

LC LHD Steering Rack.jp

Haha yeah  As soon as i got off comp and was tucked in for bed it hit me  like a tonne of bricks .commo's pinion is above the rack so reversing and putting to the front will work.maybe someone on here has a vc-vh rack they could measure between the pivots

and see how close it is to 515mm

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 25 December 2015 - 10:13 AM.

[N/A-PWR]

Your right off now Maz,

 

found this link:-

 

http://forums.justco...tml#post2205995

 

commo's pinion is above the rack so reversing and putting to the front will work.maybe someone on here has a vc-vh rack they could measure between the pivots

and see how close it is to 515mm