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Posted 12 March 2016 - 07:33 PM

No. I think black 202's are also a 3

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 08:25 PM

Only efi black motors vk prefix.
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Posted 12 March 2016 - 09:46 PM

2600S ( 161 ) LC GTR Engines also, but comparing a 1970 186 engine to a 1973 202 engine. If you want to compare engines, compare a 1973 202 engine against a 1973 202 engine. Nothing against 186 engines, they are my favourite especially those mighty CK,s.



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 08:34 AM

Comparing core pattern numbers from different displacements is worthless but the engine numbers are invaluable.



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 12:00 PM

Come on Byron, waiting on pic's of the cast date

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 12:26 PM

To me it just means that '3' aint a big deal when a stock 186 runs it. What does that do for LC GTR? Oh gee my GTR had 3 stamped on the side. It must be a performance car! Ha! Just like a bog stock HK. Same with 3 on a JP. Means zip.

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 01:43 PM


Come on Byron, waiting on pic's of the cast date


When I get time to ask the owner what it is. Not really important either as it is what it is. Doesn't really prove much either as you can't easily get the engine number and cast date in the one picture.

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 01:50 PM

Come on Byron, waiting on pic's of the cast date

You w****** reckon you are so shit hot at picking the fakes from the real deal you shouldn't need a cast date to make a judgement on the originality of an engine number. 



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 04:32 PM

Yes the "3" in three photos i posted belongs to that engine,i have no reason mix and match,makes no difference to me what numbers are cast into the block.The 3 in below pic. is the same 3 as the one previously posted , easy enough to compare the two with casting 

telltales around the number.Will try and get some pictures of 202 blocks and numbers , what prefix are we looking for  the era in question ?  

 

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 04:42 PM

QL I reckon but any would be good :)

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 04:42 PM

Yes the "3" in three photos i posted belongs to that engine,i have no reason mix and match,makes no difference to me what numbers are cast into the block.The 3 in below pic. is the same 3 as the one previously posted , easy enough to compare the two with casting 

telltales around the number.Will try and get some pictures of 202 blocks and numbers , what prefix are we looking for  the era in question ?  

 

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The 3 is not a issue, Skap has said.



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 05:25 PM

QL 202 Engine

Out of a Kingswood, the guy I bought my GTR off, Fitted this QL 202 Engine into the GTR as the 186P Donk that was in it was had it. Hope this Helps Skap

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 05:27 PM

QL 202 Engine
Out of a Kingswood, the guy I bought my GTR off, Fitted this QL 202 Engine into the GTR as the 186P Donk that was in it was had it. Hope this Helps Skap
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Thanks mate, Mould number ? is that an R on the left side lightly stamped ?

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 05:32 PM

Thanks mate, Mould number ? is that an R on the left side lightly stamped ?

 


The Exhaust was in the way, so I couldn't really see any thing I cleaned with a rag, will have to suss it again, going off the Engine Number, my guess its a HQ Kingswood Engine ??????

 

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 05:34 PM

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 05:41 PM

This is a 202.....  and it has a 3 on the side .... ???

 

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 05:58 PM

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:10 PM

I went back out and cleaned it more, could not see a number or letter, did the hand feel check and could not feel any raised anything there, can it be blank ????????

 

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:23 PM

Crikey ! no cast number will certainly through a spanner in the works , a no cast block , but seriously, the QLJP block that we made that number was not very evident even by eye as it was almost "level" with the rest of the cast and just "seeable", so even by feel it would be hard to tell ?



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:26 PM


The Exhaust was in the way, so I couldn't really see any thing I cleaned with a rag, will have to suss it again, going off the Engine Number, my guess its a HQ Kingswood Engine ??????

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Could be HQ Kingswood. Could also be HQ cab-chassis, HQ Belmont, Premier, Monaro or Monaro LS. The only thing it can't be is HQ Statesman as there is no leading 11.

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:30 PM

Yet to get a better shot of the engine number,

 

 but here is the number 2 on my QL block:-

 

 

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:30 PM

The 150 list JP engine I put up before is 2H3 cast date.

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:34 PM

Thanks mate, Mould number ? is that an R on the left side lightly stamped ?

Yeah I can see the R for Race there too. :)



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:52 PM

Went and cleaned more, got the better of me, stuck the camera down there and took this photo



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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:54 PM

Can't make anything out.. What's the cast date while your at it ? :)




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