Don't know if this has surfaced here but as above says, very interesting, time will tell I guess,would be great for the local manufacturing industry.
Anyway good on him for having a go.
http://www.carsales....lizabeth-100647
Posted 22 December 2015 - 09:34 AM
Don't know if this has surfaced here but as above says, very interesting, time will tell I guess,would be great for the local manufacturing industry.
Anyway good on him for having a go.
http://www.carsales....lizabeth-100647
Posted 22 December 2015 - 10:02 AM
Hopefully it happens. Hopefully he has more sense than Holden and expands the ute into something with leaf springs so it can tow! Or even make another AWD version like the Cross6/8.
Posted 22 December 2015 - 10:15 AM
I hope so....... I luv the new Commodore.. If I won Powerball, it would be the first car I bought........ not the only one mind you.. but a Lone O Ranger Supercharged GTS would look sic sitting along side my Torana, my 69 Pontiac Firebird, my HK GTS, my GT 351 Coupe, L/34, A9X ....... you get the picture ..... but back to reality ................. I do really like the last Commy...
Especially if this weapon come out .......
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Posted 22 December 2015 - 11:46 AM
I'd have a Ute or possibly a HSV something but neither are Commodores!
Posted 22 December 2015 - 12:10 PM
I'd have a Ute or possibly a HSV something but neither are Commodores!
OK then, Commodore-based !!
Dr Terry
Posted 26 December 2015 - 01:26 PM
Posted 26 December 2015 - 03:27 PM
Posted 26 December 2015 - 04:19 PM
Totally agree with the last two comments .... The HSV Commodore (R8, Malloo, Senator, GTS) is World class ... But let's not forget, that the World has changed.. substance is not as important as show anymore ... some people think a BMW symbol is a mark of success, even if it is the base model ... I don't care how rich or special in my own mind I may become......... I wan't a HSV VF Series 2 Supercharged Commodore Clubsport GTS-R more than anything else at the moment ...
Posted 26 December 2015 - 04:48 PM
I hate the "not a commodore" argument.
Its like arguing semantics...
Its a commodore Ute and an upgraded commodore.. Just because they dont wear the name, doesnt mean it isnt a commodore.
Id hate to see the platform bastardised.
Considering gm spent a billion dollars on the zeta platform, how much do you think theyd want to sell it for?
Posted 26 December 2015 - 04:57 PM
Posted 26 December 2015 - 05:01 PM
Holden VZ Commercial range 2004. The Commodore name is not used even once in the sales booklet.
Posted 26 December 2015 - 05:20 PM
If you were buying a Fridge, and it was advertised as an Oven, could you tell the difference .... Jezzus.. An R8 four door clubsport is a fridge not an oven ..
Posted 26 December 2015 - 05:21 PM
I like the fact my VE SS Holden ute is not a commodore,lol.
Posted 26 December 2015 - 05:28 PM
Holden Special Vehicles
Holden Special Vehicles (HSV) is the officially designated performance vehicle partner of Australian automaker, Holden. Established in 1987 and based in Clayton, Victoria, the company modifies Holden models such as the short-wheelbase Commodore, long-wheelbase Statesman and Caprice and commercial Ute range for domestic and export sale. Over the years, has also modified other non-Holden cars within the General Motors portfolio, in very low volumes.
Posted 26 December 2015 - 06:02 PM
Posted 26 December 2015 - 06:13 PM
How so Byron... XU-1 doesn't have Torana written on it anywhere, but we all know it is a torana ... is a HG Belmont & a Kingswood different cars... If you count chrome around the window as distinguishing a whole new car I think you'd be splitting hairs ..
What is a VK Blue Meanie ?? = it's a blue VK Commodore ..
What is a VE Blue meanie ?? = it's a blue VE Commodore ..
Posted 26 December 2015 - 07:31 PM
How so Byron... XU-1 doesn't have Torana written on it anywhere, but we all know it is a torana ... is a HG Belmont & a Kingswood different cars... If you count chrome around the window as distinguishing a whole new car I think you'd be splitting hairs ..
What is a VK Blue Meanie ?? = it's a blue VK Commodore ..
What is a VE Blue meanie ?? = it's a blue VE Commodore ..
Posted 26 December 2015 - 08:21 PM
How so Byron... XU-1 doesn't have Torana written on it anywhere, but we all know it is a torana ... is a HG Belmont & a Kingswood different cars... If you count chrome around the window as distinguishing a whole new car I think you'd be splitting hairs ..
What is a VK Blue Meanie ?? = it's a blue VK Commodore ..
What is a VE Blue meanie ?? = it's a blue VE Commodore ..
Posted 26 December 2015 - 09:00 PM
Byron, i really think your splitting hairs.... but to simplify things a little.... What are the two blue cars above your last post... they are commodores, just like GTHO are Falcons... doesn't matter what options or handle you give them .... although i;m not sure, but i think from memory VU Holden S utes have a Commodore badge on the front guard ..
Take the Statesman for example.. Deville, Caprice and Grange are all Statesmans... just different level of fitment....
Holden even advertise the Commodore range as Evoke, SV6, SS, SS-V, Calais, Calais V... different names same car.... to me just like a HG Belmont, Kingswood and Premier.... just different levels of fitment...
I'm not saying your wrong Byron...... Just saying you might be mistaken ....
About time for a new name anyway ..... cheers mate .. The all new Holden Chaos ..... hmmmm na
Posted 26 December 2015 - 09:17 PM
That's because it's a Crewman. 4" longer in the wheel base than a Statesman. Drives like a dream. (I have one). Different car completely to a Commodore...............steeped in luxury.
Posted 27 December 2015 - 02:07 AM
Posted 29 December 2015 - 07:46 AM
Toyota Camry and Aurion. I wonder if Aurion owners hate their cars being referred to as a Camry???
Posted 29 December 2015 - 09:42 AM
Things are given names, in this case by the manufacturer. If we use the correct name when discussing them, people know what we are talking about.
I thought that the model of most of the HK-HG and HQ-WB range was actually "Holden" as per the original? I.e. Holden (model) by Holden (manufacturer), as opposed to Commodore by Holden or Torana by Holden. Kingswood, Belmont, SL, SS, Berlina are all sub-models or luxury levels, whereas Calais, Ute, Statesman are top-level models distinct to Commodore (albeit sharing large amounts of Commodore construction especially Calais).
edit: actually calling the manufacturer "Holden" is probably a shorthand too, its really General Motors Holdens (GMH). GMH Holden / GMH Torana / GMH Commodore / GMH Calais / HSV Clubsport is possibly less confusing?
Edited by 76lxhatch, 29 December 2015 - 09:44 AM.
Posted 29 December 2015 - 11:47 AM
This makes sense to me.And to me to call a HSV a Commodore is like calling an A9X a Sunbird as they share architecture.
Posted 29 December 2015 - 12:27 PM
How so Byron... XU-1 doesn't have Torana written on it anywhere, but we all know it is a torana ... is a HG Belmont & a Kingswood different cars... If you count chrome around the window as distinguishing a whole new car I think you'd be splitting hairs ..
XU-1 still has Torana on the compliance late. HG Belmont does not have Kingswood on the compliance plate.
XU-1 is a Torana. HG Belmont is not a Kingswood.
Same goes for all the rest after that. VQ statesman has Statesman on teh compliance plate, not Commodore....
Its really not that hard to understand?
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