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[lcgtr1970]

Hi guys

Ive got a stock 202 in an HZ wagon, and it has a stock stromberg carby on it. Im in the process of installing a flashlube kit and am struggling to find a place to connect the outlet hose so that the upper cylinder lube actually gets sucked thru.

There are 2 ports on the carby (that face the rocker cover) that have been blocked off. I tried each of these but there is not enough vacuum to draw the fluid thru.

 

So where can I connect this so that it works?

The only other place i can see is the dizzy advance vacuum lead that plugs intot he base of the carby. Can i put a "T" piece into this or will it cause issues if I plumb into it?

Thanks

[StephenSLR]

lol; I just buy it by the litre, transfer it to little bottles, then top up when I fill up at the servo. Some don't bother with it saying, by the time your seats eventually recede, if ever, you just put brass inserts put into them.

 

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[S pack]

There are 2 ports on the carby (that face the rocker cover) that have been blocked off. I tried each of these but there is not enough vacuum to draw the fluid thru

Did you test those ports at idle or higher in the rev range?

[lcgtr1970]

i tested both at idle and at higher revs....not much vacuum with either.

[yel327]

The right way is to drill and tap the manifold below the carby and screw in a port. This I how we used to do it on V8's on LPG, one per side below the primaries.

[LXCHEV]

Agree completely, I wouldn't waste my time and money with it.

My Dad had a Torana that had huge mileage put onto it over 10 - 15 years (original red motor). We discussed running an additive, but decided not to and just went with the flow. We eventually pulled the engine down one day (for a separate issue), and there was absolutely nothing wrong.

No idea if different combos react differently or not, but that turned me off those products forever.

[EunUCh]

Now there's an idea..the new patent pending snake oil fuel polariser 

[S pack]

Forget about all those useless worthless fuel additives, savers and modifiers. Affordable Hydrogen fuel is now at your fingertips with the HOD Hydrogen On Demand Electrolyser/Generator, fuel saver.

It must work, it is Australian Made!!!

http://www.ebay.com....48AAOxydUJTOng6

[UCgazman]

Would go well with one of these - http://www.ebay.com....sd=151985546724

[yel327]

Agree completely, I wouldn't waste my time and money with it.

My Dad had a Torana that had huge mileage put onto it over 10 - 15 years (original red motor). We discussed running an additive, but decided not to and just went with the flow. We eventually pulled the engine down one day (for a separate issue), and there was absolutely nothing wrong.

No idea if different combos react differently or not, but that turned me off those products forever.

 

I must admit every red 308 I had on LPG never had valve wear issues, but Chevs did. I converted my HJ 350 SBC to LPG when I bought it and when it got written off about 12 months later it was using oil through the valve stems. Same with the 302 SBC I had in my MQ Patrol, it was a good running engine I pulled from a UC Torana. I put later heads (serviced and all good) on it as the heads weren't matching, and when I plumbed it up to LPG it was smoking by the way of valve stems 12 months later. Those Flashlube kits certainly fixed the MQ ie stopped further valve guide deterioration. My HZ Overlander had one on it when I bought it and I connected it back up to the VP 304 when that when in to replace the red 308, and it did work but whether it made any difference I don't know. Neither engine suffered from oil use due to valve stems. I know LPG is a lot harder on valves, seats and guides though than ULP. 

[StephenSLR]

One guy I know swears his car seems to run smoother when he adds the valve lube additive. I realise this isn't a scientific evaluation and anecdotal but being a lubricant is there a possibility that it could cause smoother running?

 

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[S pack]

Chuck one of these on while you're at it http://www.ebay.com....sd=141896519282

Snake Oil mate. It's just a cheap rip off of the Hiclone which is proven to work. Well their website says it does and they have testimonials from happy customers to prove it..

[S pack]

Seriously though, snake oil or not, waste of money or not, running an upper cyl lubricant isn't going to harm the engine so go for it if it makes you feel better.

[TerrA LX]

One guy I know swears his car seems to run smoother when he adds the valve lube additive. I realise this isn't a scientific evaluation and anecdotal but being a lubricant is there a possibility that it could cause smoother running?

 

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Maybe the lube is sealing worn valve seats lol...

[TK383]

The valve saver lube crap gums up the valves, after running it for quite a while you get a big buildup of gummy crap on the back of the intake valves, seen it bad enough to hang the valve open & cause misfires, not to mention significantly reducing power from partially blocking the port.

 

Bin that shit, does more harm than good.

[StephenSLR]

The valve saver lube crap gums up the valves, after running it for quite a while you get a big buildup of gummy crap on the back of the intake valves

 

Saw this on another forum: Apparently because our kombis stand unused for lengths of time the valve saver settles and thickens and sticks the valves. When the engine is driven again the valve saver is released in this strong concentrate and the sticky fluid stops the valves from seating correctly ruining the seal.

The mechanic has now stated 'do not use valve saver with the exception of a long trip and only at half the rate and not in the last tank fill before the kombi is garaged till their next big trip'.

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 25 February 2016 - 08:44 AM.

[UCgazman]

^Lots of people on the KC (kombi club) use it for some reason, its completely pointless as VW's all have hardened valve seats anyway and as above its just causing more problems...