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[UCgazman]

change the diff yoke, 6cyl ones are a dime a dozen...

[rexy]

Ring Hardie spicer. They have provided split pattern Uni joints to me for all sorts of odd combos over the years.

[yel327]

change the diff yoke, 6cyl ones are a dime a dozen...

 

There is no 6cyl Salisbury for HQ-WB, you could option the 10-bolt as a HD rear axle on all HQ-WB and 6cyl tonners got a 10-bolt standard but in all those cases they used a V8 tailshaft.
 

[yel327]

Hi all, I'm trying to help my nephew get his Belmont well body back together & with budget as

tight as it is, need to solve a minor hiccup as cheap as we can. So he's keeping the 6 for now

but the diff that's in it is a V8 Salisbury (1" cup yoke), years ago I did a similar swap for a bloke

& I'm certain I just bought a uni that was Banjo on 1 axis & Sals the other. Had a bit of a look on

the net today but nothing, has anyone heard of this type of uni in these sizes?

If someone's got a catalogue, spec's are:

banjo-6

A. 25.4mm Cap dia

B. 65.2mm Cap to cap

C. 43.5mm Clip to clip

 

Salsv8 (not tonna)

A. 25.4mm

B. 80.4mm

C. 59.5mm

So basically a RUJ 1786 (banjo) one way & RUJ 2030 (sals) the other.

 

Yes it'd be easier to just go get a V8/Sals shaft out of a Stato,wagon,van or well body but cash for

that & probly a couple of uni's will take money from other areas slowing it all down (I need the shed-

-back for my LJ). 

 

thanx,

 

I've been playing with HQ-WB since I was 14 years old when HZ's and WB's were still new cars and I've never heard of or seen a Uni that adapts a 6cyl to V8 (V8 Salisbury uni is the same as V8 banjo uni afaik). You can buy a V8 to tonner adapter uni, the only difference is one pair of uni cups are 1.125" diameter and the other pair are 1". With the 6cyl and V8 the cups are the same but two would be about 7.5mm further towards the centre - I can't see it working.

 

I also recall banjo and Salisbury tailshafts being slightly different in length, like near to 10mm. I remember striking this when I put a A9X diff in my LX Hatchback, I used a V8 LH-LX tailshaft but it was very tight and should have been 10mm shorter for the Salisbury.

 

In my opinion the cheapest way out would be to go find a V8 tailshaft with useable unis on it. When you say Belmont I assume its a HQ ute or van or HQ-HX wagon? Also assume Aussie 3/4spd or trimatic? If so just grab any 253 HQ-WB ute, van, wagon or statesman tailshaft. Many others are the same too: HQ 308 Statesman/wagon/ute/van, HJ-HZ 308 manual ute/van/wagon and post 1981 WB Statesman. It is probably the most common shaft after a 6cyl of the same origins and 6cyl sedan/coupe, surely someone in WA has one they've kept out of the weather that will keep your nephew going. I can't imagine paying more than $75 for one here. Try Greg at Classicozwreck, he'd have one but freight might be $50 to WA. 
 

[UCgazman]

So a UC or early Commo diff yoke wont fit?

[yel327]

So a UC or early Commo diff yoke wont fit?

 

No as these are a banjo in disguise and are simply banjo yokes (unless you are talking 5.0L, or lesser engines optioned with a HD rear axle). The only Holdens you'll fit a 4.2L VB-VH small Salisbury diff yoke onto are 6cyl diffs (except tonner) - banjo for HQ-HZ or baby sals for WB.
 

[UCgazman]

 Ok cool, good to know!

[ls2lxhatch]

The V8 tailshaft sounds like the best solution in the long run. I expect Phil at Final Drive will be able to tell you if a conversion uni exists.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 15 April 2016 - 02:52 PM.

[yel327]

Yeh, Yel your assumptions are correct, 202/m20 HQ Belmont ute...well the tags say that

but the firewall has a pull clutch cable hole?? At least the chassis # matches the tags.

And your probly right on not hearing of 1 as I did this in the 80's & more than likely forgot

that I ended up having to get a V8 shaft anyway (lot of beer & bumps since).

i'll let the boy know we're looking for a V8 t/shaft, makes sense anyway as he's going to go

chev v8 later.

 

Thanx 

 

It might have a HX-WB body on it. The easiest ways to tell on a ute are:

 

Mount hole for retractable seat belt at shoulder height maybe 12" below the top seatbelt hole. HJ onwards have these.

Weld on rather than screwed on rear body mount covers.

If its a later HZ (like mid 1978 on) or WB body it will have 2 x clutch pedal pivot points, one above the other.

WB bucket seat (inner) holes are further from the tunnel so HQ-HZ bench fits but HQ-HZ buckets won't bolt into a WB and WB buckets won't bolt into a HQ-HZ.

 

That or someone has punched a cable clutch hole into a HQ body.
 

[yel327]

Sounds HQ. If it was a HX-WB body the rat-trap won't fit as the mounting stud is in a different spot. Welded rear body mount covers means pre about 1/75 body so again sounds like HQ.