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GTR and XU1 verification thread

Started by dattoman , Oct 20 2009 01:52 AM

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#351 Bazza

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 12:50 PM

Hi stkilda1

Welcome to the forum.

82911C relates to the fact that the car is a GMH LC Torana GTR 2 door sedan

J222967 is the Production Sequence Number. This vehicle was completed in Melbourne on 20/5/70

1194-41x is GMHs reference for the body colour with Gold vinyl trim.

567 11905 is the body colour which is Verdora Green Metallic

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 01:28 PM

thank you for the quick reply but could you tell me when did they built xu1 how i find out if this is one full restoration in progress

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 01:54 PM

thank you for the quick reply but could you tell me when did they built xu1 how i find out if this is one full restoration in progress

Hi

The first XU-1s were completed in July '70. Only the Adelaide and Brisbane plants built XU-1s - none were built in Sydney, Melbourne or Perth.

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 09:08 PM

Rather than start a new thread, I thought perhaps some one more knowledgable than me might be able to assist me to decode the details from two LCs.

LC Torana 1
VIN: 82911CH171991
Model: LC82911M
Body: 09950B
Trim: 1813 40V
Paint: 568 12571

Does this number mean anything - 3100X22381?

LC Torana 2
LC11809B
VIN: 82311CH643735
Model: LC82311
Body: 24665B
Trim: 1192 42E
Paint: 568 11401
Top: Blank

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 09:57 PM

Hi Brett

82911CH171991 appears on the VIN disc as an XU-1 completed in Brisbane on 23/9/70 it was sold by dealer 625 (Muirs of Ryde NSW). The engine number does not appear on the disc but 3100X22381 is consistent with that build period. The colour is Lina Mint and the trim is black vinyl. A Chassis Number is requred as an additional reference point vis authenticity. Please provide the Chassis Number from the ADR plate and the inner passenger guard stamping.

82311CH643735 is a Sydney built 2 door S model completed on 2/7/70. It is Kashmir White in colour with a red interior.

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 06:26 AM

Hi Brett

82911CH171991 appears on the VIN disc as an XU-1 completed in Brisbane on 23/9/70 it was sold by dealer 625 (Muirs of Ryde NSW). The engine number does not appear on the disc but 3100X22381 is consistent with that build period. The colour is Lina Mint and the trim is black vinyl. A Chassis Number is requred as an additional reference point vis authenticity. Please provide the Chassis Number from the ADR plate and the inner passenger guard stamping.

82311CH643735 is a Sydney built 2 door S model completed on 2/7/70. It is Kashmir White in colour with a red interior.

Cheers

Bazza

Cheers Bazza!

The Kashmir White 2 door S is the car that I just bought. In amongst all of the spare parts that came with the car was a piece of paper with the hand written details for an unknown Torana. As you have identified, these details relate to a Lina Mint XU-1. The Chassis Number was not recorded on the piece of paper.

It appears that all of the numbers for my car match up though. This is a relief.

Thanks again for your assistance.

Cheers,
Brett

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#357 _HOLZMANIA_

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 06:37 AM

Hi Guys, i'm new to this so forgive me if its in the wrong spot...
I just bought a LC and there a few tell tails that lead me to believe it may be a GTR or even a xu1( i dont like my luck)
Any info would be great.....

Model LC82911
body 3738-a
Trim 1822-40v
Paint 568-13135

8/71 alc34074a
vin 82911cl182370

Thanks Ryan......

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#358 _BATHURST-32D_

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:58 AM

i seen this car before on ebay, its one of the first lc gtrs built in the color of loneoranger, and the only one i have seen all numbers seem to match fine, it was built in adelaide on 23-8-71 sold in vic in the 10th month of 71 by dealer 363 witch by how records is BREWSTER AND MADDERN ALLEN ST KYABRAM the original engine number would be CF17820 and there for the car would have left the factory with a all aussie 4 speed [not a opel]and all robuc black intirior.

please note that its up to you to make sure all tags and numbers belong to the body of the car i have give you the info on.
ps thats one rare gtr mate take good care of it.

cheers gong

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#359 _HOLZMANIA_

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 10:50 AM

i seen this car before on ebay, its one of the first lc gtrs built in the color of loneoranger, and the only one i have seen all numbers seem to match fine, it was built in adelaide on 23-8-71 sold in vic in the 10th month of 71 by dealer 363 witch by how records is BREWSTER AND MADDERN ALLEN ST KYABRAM the original engine number would be CF17820 and there for the car would have left the factory with a all aussie 4 speed [not a opel]and all robuc black intirior.

please note that its up to you to make sure all tags and numbers belong to the body of the car i have give you the info on.
ps thats one rare gtr mate take good care of it.

cheers gong

Thanks a heap Gong. bummer someone fitted a 308 into her but will try and get it back to as close to original as i can....

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#360 _HOLZMANIA_

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 10:13 AM

Hi Gong, could u tell me if this engine is a lc gtr 161????

2600S33979 ( Date code: L230)

Thanks Ryan......

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#361 _BATHURST-32D_

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 07:59 AM

hi mate the 2600s is the code for a lc gtr before the cf engine change over in the middle of 71,, the block date code you have given of L230 would be for a late 3rd to a mid 4th month 71 gtr the engine number of 33979 will confirm this, but this engine is really no good for your gtr has you need a cf prefix engine.
the info i have given you on the 2600s would still need checking to make sure the engine is not a restamp, but the block build date does say it very well could be genuin.

cheers gong

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#362 _BATHURST-32D_

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 08:53 AM

i take it this is the motor you talk of if so i know the seller and he is a great torana man.

http://cgi.ebay.com....849091975101130

cheers gong

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#363 _HOLZMANIA_

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:54 AM

i take it this is the motor you talk of if so i know the seller and he is a great torana man.

http://cgi.ebay.com....849091975101130

cheers gong

YEAH THATS THE ONE, THANKS FOR THAT, ILL TRY AND WAIT TILL ANOTHER ONE COMES UP.
WOULD YOU KNOW OF ANY OR SUGGEST ANYONE THAT MIGHT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF ONE???

RYAN

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#364 _BATHURST-32D_

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:16 AM

sorry mate but you would be bast of putting a wanted add up in the wanted part of this forum, thay are not a vey common this but thay where also in the hg kingswood range at sometime aswell.

cheers gong

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#365 _BARRY JACKPOT_

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 08:24 AM

Hi all, brand new and need a bit of decode info, here's the tags.

Model LJ82911
Body No 19433B
Trim 1838 40X
Paint 568 13136

Eng XU1 Trans RRAxle G95

HOLDEN
LJ TORANA SEDAN 2 DOOR
2/73 BLJ 19579B

8D11PCH266999J

Cheers. Restoring this one so will have a million questions about what goes where.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 09:43 AM

Hi Chris

Welcome to the forum.

That VIN indicates an XU-1 completed in Brisbane on 20/2/73 and sold by NSW dealer 785 later the same month. The original engine was number JP286003. The car is March 17th in colour (an emerald green named after St Patrick's Day) with plain black vinyl interor trim.

The numbers are consistent datewise.

Ask any questions that you may have - there are numerous people on the forum that will be willing to help answer them.

Cheers

Bazza

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#367 _BARRY JACKPOT_

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

Thanks heaps Bazza, so how would you go about finding out which dealership 785 was. That would be kinda cool to know. The old man bought it after the original owner lunched the motor, not sure where he bought it or who replaced the motor. The original is long gone as is the replacement, this thing was his daily transport till 97 and has had at least 4 different motors in it that I can remember. I know it had a 186 in it at one stage not sure what else was in there.

Cheers again I'll be asking heaps of questions the deeper I get into it.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 08:55 PM

Have a look here:
You might have to read a few pages, the complete list hasn't been updated for a while.
http://www.gmh-toran...t/page__st__425

Edited by rodomo, 02 May 2011 - 08:56 PM.

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#369 _BARRY JACKPOT_

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 09:18 PM

Thanks Rob, 785 wasn't on there maybe someone will know. Not important but would be cool to know.

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#370 _HOLZMANIA_

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 09:36 AM

Hi guys, just seeing if i can get some info on a lj gtr 73...

vin# 8D11LCH281120J

The guy is telling me that they changed the vin numbers for some of the gtr's in 73, my records show other wise but i may be very mistaken..

Thanks Ryan

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#371 Bazza

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 10:43 AM

Hi Ryan

The VIN numbering system on all LJs (not just GTRs) was changed during Oct '72. Prior to this, GTR VINs used to commence with 82911 but this became 8D11L.

The VIN that you have quoted is a Brisbane built GTR completed on 9/6/73 and was sold by dealer 621 during 7/73. The original engine number was JL349865

The Body Number of this car should be 281120-B as the Body Number began to be derived from the PSN part of the VIN during May '73.

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#372 _GTR_71_

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:07 AM

Hello all, I am new to the forum and I was just wondering if I could get some help in identifying what car I might have and if it is orginal or not.

I have owned, for the last 18 or so years, what I think is a genuine 1971 GTR Baroda Silver (the car is painted silver) LC Torana which my parents have had the misfortune of having to store in their garage for all this time. When I initially purchased the vehile, I decided �that it required a couple of small modifications before getting back onto the road,� like ripping the original motor out (which I sold at the time for $500) and dropping in a warm 202, 350 holley carb, extractors, celica 5 speed box conversion and a few modifications to the front seats with the addition of �2 toyota celica seats (well I think they are toyota seats), all of which I had ripped out of another LJ Torana I initially purchased in an unregistered state that was so full of rust that it was not worth getting back on the road.

Anyway, after pulling the car to pieces I got side tracked with life and left it to collect dust at the parents place, never again to ever touch the tarmac. However, over the last 6 months or so I have been spending as much time (and money) possible trying to get the thing back to its original state and back on the road without the thought that it might not be an original GTR even thought the Body Identification Plate shows LC82911 as the model number. So I have finally 'bit the bullet' and have joined this forum to satisfy my curiosity in the hope I may have the genuine atricle.

As I am new to this forum I am not really sure (and apologise if I get it wrong or have posted the details in the wrong spot ) where to or what format� is required to list details in the hope that someone may be able to help/confirm the codes, but here are the details anyway:

Body Identification Tag :

Model : LC82911

Body No:3559-A

Trim : 1827-40V

Paint : 567-13122

VIN : 82911CL17845

I have my doubts as to whether the car is genuine as the main tag body number which is also stamped on the inside left guard (LC31137A) does not match the Body Identification tag number 3559-A, but as I know nothing about �the numbers or what they mean, I thought I would find out anyway.�

Well, thank you to whomever maight be able to help me with the numbers and I look forward to further postings, discussions other helpful stuff.

Cheers

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#373 _BATHURST-32D_

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 07:28 AM

hi mate but your missing a number from your vin tag, and your inner guard number will match with the adr tag that should be under the wiper motor behind the brake booster.

cheers gong

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#374 Bazza

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 09:11 AM

Hi Scott

Welcome to the forum.

As Gong mentioned - you are missing a digit from the VIN. I will stick my head out and say that it is a 9 between the 8 and the 4 making it 82911L178945.

The Body Number on the Body Identification Tag does not have to match any other number it is the Chassis Number on the ADR tag and the stamping on the inner guard that must match. This being the case (and I will confirm when you provide the full VIN), I believe the car is a GTR completed in Adelaide on 25/6/71 and used internally by GMH Melbourne. There is no engine number listed.

If there is any chance of tracking down the original engine it will be well worth it - it would add significantly to the value of the car.

Get back to us.

Cheers

Bazza

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#375 _GTR_71_

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 08:25 PM

Hi Gong/Bazza,

Just wanted to thank you for getting back to me so soon and sorry for the missing number as it was pretty late last night when I posted those numbers, but you are exactly correct as I have checked the VIN Number and it is 82911CL178945. The body number stamped on the inner guard is LC31137A and the tag under the wiper motor has the same LC31137A stamped with 6/71 preceeding that.

Thanks also to Gong for spotting the missing digit.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if this date and year model car have the 161s or the 173s and did they still run an opel 4 speed or the M20 gearbox? I have heard that the 161s motors are like hens teeth, and I probably can forget the 173s option as they seem to be even rarer.

Cheers,
Scott

Edited by GTR_71, 05 May 2011 - 08:36 PM.