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[Bazza]

Hi Scott

Your car was completed right at the end of the 2600S model. The earliest 2850S that I can find on the VIN disc ex Adelaide is 2/7/71. I would say that there is a hgh likelihood that yours would have had the 2600S/Opel combo.

Gong may know how to identify the difference from holes in the floor pan etc. Isn't there something different about the placement of the hole for the reverse light switch wire?

Genuine 2600S motors are hard to find and expensive. Gong may know the whereabouts of one.

Cheers

Bazza

[mac]

Bazza, would the last ever xu1 built be a brisbane or adelaide car and what would its numbers/details be? Any info would be appreciated.Thanks-Mac.

[Bazza]

Hi Mac

As far as I can tell - the last Brisbane LJ XU-1 was H290767 completed on 19/11/73 and sold by dealer 900 during 11/73 - the engine was JP398486

There were 2 Adelaide LJ XU-1s completed on 18/9/73.
L252526 engine number JP404156 sold by dealer 439 during Oct '73 and L252538 engine number JP397909 sold by dealer 694 during Oct '73.

Cheerxs

Bazza

[mac]

Thanks Bazza. I thought that the PSN number was date specific,ie the larger the number the later the build date. I have a 9/73 xu1 L252674 which is a higher number than the 2 that you listed. Would you be able to clarify how the PSN system works? thanks, Mac.

[Bazza]

Hi Mark

You are correct - not a GTR or XU-1.

It is an "S" model 2 door completed in Brisbane on 6/4/73 and sold by dealer 499 during the same month. It left the factory fitted with a 3300 6 cylinder number JL314413.

If it were an XU-1 the VIN would commence with 8D11P not 8B11L

Cheers

Bazza

[dattoman]

So technically... that body tag is on the wrong car

So should go in the dodgy tag list ?
Got a pic of it
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[Bazza]

Hi Mac

As far as I know the PSN is allocated before the car is built as it appears on the production broadcast sheet. Your car appears to be the highest/latest XU-1 PSN so presumably it is the last XU-1 order request ex Adelaide. I do know that the PSNs are definately not completed in lock-step order. There are numerous examples of cars with consecutive PSNs being completed up to weeks apart. Why this occurrs or how cars with earlier PSNs are completed later is anyones guess.

Perhaps a forum member with knowledge of the production process can elucidate.

Cheers

Bazza

[Bazza]

So technically... that body tag is on the wrong car

So should go in the dodgy tag list ?
Got a pic of it
[email protected]

Hi dattoman

I meant to mention that the Body Tag is from an XU-1 from November 1972.

Cheers

Bazza

[S pack]

Well, The hunt continues for a genuine car. I'm looking at a 72 XU-1 at the moment. I spoke with the owner and he did not have access to the car while we were talking as it's in storage. Anyway, he's going to get me photos of the plates and body number, but, while I wait I thought I'd do a quick check of the engine number. He has it listed as JP106731 (and assuming it is not a typo); I had a bit of a look on the VIN CD and I found engine number B106731 fitted to a car on 01 Feb 72. I'm new to this, but I'm thinking that there would only be one engine with 106731. Is this assumption correct? If so, it would be safe to conclude that the 'B' was somehow changed to a P?

I'm not trying to be paranoid, rather just make sure that when I spend my money, I get exactly what I'm paying for. In any case, when the photos of the build plates show up (hopefully tomorrow) I'll get a definite answer either way.

Cheers,

Mark

Hi mob,

You are correct in saying that only one engine should have that number irrespective of the engine prefix, in this case B106731 being a 138 red engine.
I could only find one 1972 built XU1 with an engine number ending in 731.
An Adelaide built car L194355 with JP104731 completed on 1/02/1972.
Keep in mind though there are a lot of XU1's on the vin disc without an engine number recorded, so a mistake could have been made when B106731 was recorded against that car. Hopefully Bazza will be able to fill in some gaps if you can post up the vin number.

Cheers
Dave.

[S pack]

Alright, hot off the press, here are the numbers to this car...
http://www.carpoint....65857&silo=1011 Body Identification Tag : Model : LJ82911
Body No: 439-A
Trim : 1822-40X
Paint : 567-13135

VIN : 82911JL202552 Large Tag with ADR's: ALJ06440A Body #:
ALJ06440A

Engine #: JP106731

What's the word? Is this genuine or not?

Cheers,

I'll let Bazza reply to the chassis and Body Number authenticity and other info, but I can tell you that the correct Engine for that PSN as listed on the Warranty Service Records is JP147557.

[S pack]

Hi Mac

As far as I know the PSN is allocated before the car is built as it appears on the production broadcast sheet. Your car appears to be the highest/latest XU-1 PSN so presumably it is the last XU-1 order request ex Adelaide. I do know that the PSNs are definately not completed in lock-step order. There are numerous examples of cars with consecutive PSNs being completed up to weeks apart. Why this occurrs or how cars with earlier PSNs are completed later is anyones guess.

Perhaps a forum member with knowledge of the production process can elucidate.

Cheers

Bazza

Hi Guys,

I believe the answer (in most cases) will be paint batching, ie: painting a run of cars the same colour.
GMH would not have had a paint booth set up for each colour option available.

The thing to remember is the Warranty Service Records don't tell us what date the build was commenced only the completion date.
The time to build a car from start to finish would have been in the order of 2 - 3 Days. So in the case of a PSN having a completion date up to 14 days out of whack with the others around it the build of that car may have only commenced 2 days before the completion date, even though the PSN had been assigned to the order 12 days before that.

[mac]

That seems quite logical S-Pack, Thankyou.

[v8xu1pete]

Hi Guys,

I'm new to this, so hope I am in the right spot.

Looking for some information, perhaps from Bazza, on my LJ 2 door, believed to be XU1. The 2 front tags are missing. From the ADR tag I have 10/72, ALJ14100B, which matches the LH inner skirt. It has all the usual & obvious XU1 bits, except for fitment of a V8 & 5 speed box. Has been in its current form since prior to 1982. Are there any smaller & less obvious identifiers that I can look for, to indicate XU1 or not.

Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Peter.

[S pack]

Hi Guys,

I'm new to this, so hope I am in the right spot.

Looking for some information, perhaps from Bazza, on my LJ 2 door, believed to be XU1. The 2 front tags are missing. From the ADR tag I have 10/72, ALJ14100B, which matches the LH inner skirt. It has all the usual & obvious XU1 bits, except for fitment of a V8 & 5 speed box. Has been in its current form since prior to 1982. Are there any smaller & less obvious identifiers that I can look for, to indicate XU1 or not.

Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Peter.

Hi and welcome Peter,

Can't tell anything about the originality from the chassis number except it is a Brisbane Built car.
Apparently the last three numbers of the PSN (vin number) on Brissy cars was usually written in texta on the back of the Compliance plate (the one near the wiper motor). If you remove the compliance plate and there are numbers on the back then PM Bazza and he might be able to narrow down what your car could be.

Cheers
Dave

[S pack]

Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to identify my LC GTR XU1 Bathurst Torana and I'm hoping someone on here can help. First up here is the info off the thin long tag, 82911CH190822, I know it's a
GTR XU1 built in Acacia Ridge in Qld and what I have read it's the second run but if that's wrong someone may be able to shed light on that, Second
here are the rest of the Numbers. Model No: LC82911M, Body No: 09185B, Trim: 1814-40V, Paint: 568-12572 and finally the Engine Bay No: LC14198B.
I don't know what the engine was but have been told the it would have started with CK and endied with X, If someone out there can help with authenticating my Torana it would be most appreciated.

Cheers, HQGTS253

G/day Brian

Hate to be the bearer of bad news.

H190822 comes up as a Brisbane built GTR (not XU1), completed on the 5/04/1971, sold during 4/71 by dealer No. 498.
The original engine number was S033984 (161S).

[Bazza]

Hi Brian

Welcome to the forum.

PM sent

Cheers

Bazza