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#451 _roscoe_

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:33 PM

hi all

have not been able to convince the owner to remove the ADR tag to look for the numbers on the back but has been able to dig up some old rego papers with some interesting numbers

serial No 0303021
vic rego IIE 892 (not original)

W47N013075 (no idea what this one is but appears on rego certificate)

ANY MORE IDEAS??????

If we cant prove its a XU1 and all things point to a XU1 and in pretty good condition what do you think its worth?

cheers roscoe

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:52 PM

Contact Vic rego and ask them if they have any records for it

If it can't be proven what it is then its just a 2 dr and worth as much as its worth in the condition its in
Which is about what someones willing to pay and what the owners willing to sell it for

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 09:10 PM

Hi Roscoe

PM on its way

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Edited by Bazza, 07 September 2011 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2011 - 08:46 PM

sent PM and photos

cheers roscoe

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 12:42 PM

Hi guys can some one fill me in on this


Model lc82911
Body 23821b
Trim 1826 48v
Paint 567 13121



Thanks in advance John

Edited by yep-208, 04 October 2011 - 12:45 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2011 - 12:45 PM

thats the paint tag mate
need long skinny tag for bazza to do his stuff as well

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 12:46 PM

Car hasn't got the long skinny tag

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:22 PM

Identity crisis !!!

Guess theres not much to be gained
Body # ?

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 02:06 PM

Identity crisis !!!

Guess theres not much to be gained
Body # ?



Hi All

All that we can really say is that it appears to be one of half a dozen GTRs completed in Brisbane around the second quarter of August '71. It is/was Amethyst Met with Sandalwood vinyl trim. It is also one of the relatively rare later GTRs with the 173S engine and Aussie 4 speed transmission.

There were no XU-1s built until much later in the month.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 10:50 PM

Hi I am 15 and am interested in buying a torana, I havefound one with my dad and we do not know how to work out if it is original.



I have been trying to post but keep getting errors.



Details of car are.



Model lc 82911

Body 3474-a

Paint 568-12204

Trim 1199-40v



6/71 LC 30172a



82911c l177588



Thanks

James




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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:04 PM

Your errors were cause I was at work and hadn't validated your account
But your good to go
And posted the question in the right section... good job

Bazza will be all over this and give you the answers soon enough

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 07:05 AM

Hi James

Welcome to the forum.

L177588 appears on the VIN disc as a GTR completed in Adelaide on 4/6/71 and sold by Kevin James Pty Ltd, 1308 Albany Hwy, Cannington WA during July '71. The origine engine number was 2600S36744. The colour is/was Indy Orange with black vinyl trim. The Chassis Number and Body Number quoted are consistent with the completion date of the VIN entry. Ensure that the Chassis Number that appears on the ADR tag agrees exactly with the Chassis Number stamping on the inner passenger side guard and ensure that the car has all of the features expected in a GTR.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 12:06 PM

Hi guys, am researching LJ GTR for purchase from dealer and need some help. It doesn't have original motor in it, but I can live with that. Am hoping to validate numbers however and am confused.

Body ID Plate
LJ82911M
03395B
1843 40x - seems to line up with dublingreen finish & black hoodlining
567 13885

Number stamped on chassis rail
ALJ03312B

Number on compliance plate
ALJ03312B
4/72 2 Door

VIN Plate- Painted hard to read
82911JI228657
Think this "I" rather than "number one" after "J"??? Not sure

Have researched numbers from "208 page vehicle history file" off your website and if I am reading the numbers right found it on page 40, tenth from bottom which lines up with 82911 4/72. Question if anyone knows why "H228657" is shown rather than "I228657"???

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 12:32 PM

Hi guys, am researching LJ GTR for purchase from dealer and need some help. It doesn't have original motor in it, but I can live with that. Am hoping to validate numbers however and am confused.

Body ID Plate
LJ82911M
03395B
1843 40x - seems to line up with dublingreen finish & black hoodlining
567 13885

Number stamped on chassis rail
ALJ03312B

Number on compliance plate
ALJ03312B
4/72 2 Door

VIN Plate- Painted hard to read
82911JI228657
Think this "I" rather than "number one" after "J"??? Not sure

Have researched numbers from "208 page vehicle history file" off your website and if I am reading the numbers right found it on page 40, tenth from bottom which lines up with 82911 4/72. Question if anyone knows why "H228657" is shown rather than "I228657"???


G/day and welcome Angus

H1 through to H4 = Brisbane assembly plant (Acacia Ridge) L1 through to L5 = Adelaide assembly plant (Elizabeth) GMH didn't have any assembly plant codes commencing with the letter I. The vin tag on the car should have a H not an I as the chassis number you posted is a Brisbane number.

Cheers
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Edited by S pack, 06 October 2011 - 12:35 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2011 - 01:04 PM

could it be an L?? that would make it adelaide built car

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 01:04 PM

Thanks Dave, hence my confusion. I read somewhere that GTR"s were made in all plants including Bris & Adel? Also the J1-J9 sequence was Melb?



Hi guys, am researching LJ GTR for purchase from dealer and need some help. It doesn't have original motor in it, but I can live with that. Am hoping to validate numbers however and am confused.

Body ID Plate
LJ82911M
03395B
1843 40x - seems to line up with dublingreen finish & black hoodlining
567 13885

Number stamped on chassis rail
ALJ03312B

Number on compliance plate
ALJ03312B
4/72 2 Door

VIN Plate- Painted hard to read
82911JI228657
Think this "I" rather than "number one" after "J"??? Not sure

Have researched numbers from "208 page vehicle history file" off your website and if I am reading the numbers right found it on page 40, tenth from bottom which lines up with 82911 4/72. Question if anyone knows why "H228657" is shown rather than "I228657"???


G/day and welcome Angus

H1 through to H4 = Brisbane assembly plant (Acacia Ridge) L1 through to L5 = Adelaide assembly plant (Elizabeth) GMH didn't have any assembly plant codes commencing with the letter I. The vin tag on the car should have a H not an I as the chassis number you posted is a Brisbane number.

Cheers
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Posted 06 October 2011 - 01:40 PM

Must have been for sale in 09 also...

http://oldholden.com/node/78153

would seem it is a H.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 02:53 PM

[quote name='Young Len' timestamp='1317870285' post='626418']
Thanks Dave, hence my confusion. I read somewhere that GTR"s were made in all plants including Bris & Adel? Also the J1-J9 sequence was Melb?

Hi Angus

LJ Torana's were only made in Brisbane & Adelaide.

The 'J' on the vin tag has nothing to do with the production plant. It simply refers to the model ie 82911 = GTR, J = LJ.

The vin number should read as follows:- 82911JH228657 H2 = Brisbane and the 2 is also the first number of the unique identifier (vin number).

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:18 PM

Thanks again for the info but it looks like its' an "I". What happens if it is an "I"??
I have a photo on my phone but can't download it. Will go back and get picture on camera and download if that helps?



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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:44 PM

Thanks again for the info but it looks like its' an "I". What happens if it is an "I"??
I have a photo on my phone but can't download it. Will go back and get picture on camera and download if that helps?



Yeah mate, getter a better pic if you can. If the production plant letter is an I and not a H then it could be a factory stamping mistake.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:40 PM

Hi all

There are plenty of examples where the VIN tag stamping process has been done in such a way where the J and the H have tried to occupy the same space resulting in what looks like an I.

I would be more concerned with the fact that the seller back in Nov 2009 intimated that the car "may not be a GTR". I don't know what the basis of this was because all of the numbers accord datewise. Usually when a rebody occurs, the Chassis Number is out of sync with the other numbers.

Check it out carefully.

Cheers

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:18 PM

Thanks Skapinad & Bazza for the heads up

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 03:57 PM

hi ,can someone decipher these numbers for me please
skinny plate 8D11LDH291634
number on inner guard BLJ51815B
model LJ82911
body number 291634B
trim1821-58X
top BVR
paint 568-13134
9 / 73



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Posted 08 October 2011 - 04:27 PM

Hi

Those numbers relate to a GTR completed in Brisbane on 7/9/73 and sold by dealer 906 during the same month. The original engine number was JL283290. From the other info that you have provided it can be established that the car is Glacier White with a Black Viny Roof. The interior is Doeskin and Chestnut vinyl.

All the numbers accord with the build completion date. It is presumed that the Chassis Number is the same in both locations.

Cheers

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 07:44 PM

Hi

Those numbers relate to a GTR completed in Brisbane on 7/9/73 and sold by dealer 906 during the same month. The original engine number was JL283290. From the other info that you have provided it can be established that the car is Glacier White with a Black Viny Roof. The interior is Doeskin and Chestnut vinyl.

All the numbers accord with the build completion date. It is presumed that the Chassis Number is the same in both locations.

Cheers

Bazza


thank bazza your help is much appreciated ,cheers rodney





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